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Posted on 06/17/2004 11:20:09 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
Bettinelli reports:
I just got this message from Rod Dreher:
"On Sunday, The Dallas Morning News will begin publishing the results of a major yearlong investigation into a largely uncovered aspect of the Catholic sex abuse scandal. The series of stories are international in scope, and will make headlines nationally and overseas. I’m not at liberty to disclose details yet, but I’ve seen advanced copies of the articles, and they are devastating. I believe at this point, more details will be available on Friday morning, when one of the reporters on the series does an interview on National Public Radio’s “Morning Edition.” The stories will be available on the dallasnews.com website starting either late Saturday night or early Sunday morning.
I expect these stories to dominate conversation among concerned American Catholics next week, and into the early summer (because there will be much more to come; next week’s series only reveals part of what our reporters have uncovered and documented). These findings give lie to the claim from Church officialdom that this scandal is over. The cover-up continues."
Rod Dreher confirms:
"Not only stories, but photographs. I’ve seen the planned cover of Sunday’s DMN. The picture they’re going to run is a jaw-dropper...I hate to tell you this, but the bishops already know. They have known. They hoped you and I wouldn’t find out. That’s part of the story... Also, our people are now talking to national media about this. Starting Friday night, you might be seeing stuff about this. I’ll let Dom and others know if any early media appearances are scheduled."
(Excerpt) Read more at bettnet.dyndns.org ...
Actually, it's at my old parish, Church of the Annunciation in Altamonte Spring, FL. I moved from there almost three months ago. I miss the parish, but God is everywhere, isn't he? ;)
I'm a-dustin' my sandals off and going to hang out with the other Catholic homeschoolers in my area! I'll catch up more later.
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But never fear, there are plenty of Catholic Haters and dissidents who will take up the cudgel on the thread, hurling inaccurate names at those who take issue with Peach's story. For example, Sinkspur accused me yesterday of posting things that are "just plain wrong." I challenged him to be more specific, and I'm still waiting. I expect I'll wait a long time.
It is gratifying to see thoughtful Catholics like GOP Soccer Mom and Canticle of Deborah defending the Faith, however. My prayers today will go out for all the Faithful Freepers, and also for Peach that she might find her way home.
I'll even remember you today, Sinky. Join me in spirit for The Angelus. You remember that one, don't you? From the "bad old days" of the pre-Vatican II Church?
Peace to all.
You might read Canon 1152, paying particular attention to the last Sentence, as well as Paras 2 & 3. The law on the topic of separation darn near MANDATES a discussion with the parish priest.
Your claim that one who is "unaware of serious sin" is to continue sacramental life is correct. But the Canon indirectly suggests, rather strongly, that there are reasons to visit with the pastor...
Cry me a river!
Wow, such a vitriolic ad hominem attack. I hope you mention that one in confession.
Anyway, when I was in high school in Pennsylvania in the sixties, the local priest took the acolyte class down into the church basement, got them drunk on church wine and molested them. The church made a deal with the authorities to drop the charges and send the priest to some retreat for counselling. I know this is true because my father was the desk sergeant at the police station.
And the pendulum swings.
Everything I learned about ad hominems I learned from your post.
Your sick, rumor mongering soul needs help. Perhaps you could attend to yourself before jumping on the bandwagon every time someone on the Internet tells a questionable tale about the Church you love to hate.
I think that you need help, seriously. You are reading way too much into posts and seeing hate where there is none. You are also having difficulty facing truth or at least distinguishing the truth. Paranoia might be a real possibilty. Get some help.
Oy veh! you are right...atrocious stuff!!!!
Tis true!!!! This is the essense of the coverup - allied with the media - of the fact that homosexuality is at the root of the problem. As a kid, I remember the good priests we used to have, but I also saw the beginnings of the problem manifesting itself in the 60's and early 70s
When I was a little kid in hte early 60s, I remember hearing (from a combination of my mom telling me, and the priest from the pulpit) that Vatican II would be a cleasing process and a test of faith - that the "wheat would be seperated from the chaff"......the true believers seperated from the lukewarm. I only wish I knew whom I am actually quoting. But, those sayings are coming true. Vatican II is both a chastiesment and a test of faith. Despite all the nonesense, scandal, and heresy which you are and will be subject to, will you still hold on and believe in the truths of the faith the church has always taught? Will you hold out - faithful to the end....while faithless bishops close, sell, and demolish our churches? (see www.anti-abomination.com ) Will you still keep faith if it means at the expense of ridicule, losing your friends/job/family? Can you hold out as we go down into the catacombs as a group? Will you still believe when civil authorities cause the church to be unlwful? Will you still keep the faith when the only mass you can find is said by a priest dressed in rags on a rock in the woods - using a dented chalice, and a cracked plate for a paten - to a crowd of unwashed fugitives? Will you love Christ enough to do this????
The priests and prelates who have thus far escaped exposure - and are the most suspected - are the most dangerous. They, the seemingly "teflon coated" ones, are frequently the ones who are guiding and facilitating the process of autodestruction of which Fr. Malachi Martin wrote.
The facts would disagree with your personal feelings.
According to the Dallas Morning News a great many school teachers and educators from Texas had been merely reprimanded for sexual abuse allegations, and then returned to their jobs only to abuse more children. see: (Dianne Jennings, DMN, May 6, 2003), and related stories
Here is just one related article to teacher sexual abuse in Texas:
5/7/2003
Teachers’ Trust ~ Filed under: Paper Trail FOIA
"Diane Jennings and Robert Tharp of the Dallas Morning News studied 606 sexual abuse cases involving Texas public school teachers during the last eight years, a figure that state officials said “likely understates the problem because of districts’ failure to report incidents.” Officials’ efforts to keep problem teachers out of the classroom “appear spotty at best. Cases at the state level can take years to resolve, and discipline, when meted out, often appears inconsistent.” Among the sidebars is the story of one teacher who lost his license after misconduct with a female student but got another job because the state did not note the episode on his teaching certificate".
Yes he is.
Can. 1315 §1 Whoever has legislative power can also make penal laws. A legislator can, however, by laws of his own, reinforce with a fitting penalty a divine law or an ecclesiastical law of a higher authority, observing the limits of his competence in respect of territory or persons.§2 A law can either itself determine the penalty or leave its determination to the prudent decision of a judge.
§3 A particular law can also add other penalties to those laid down for a certain offence in a universal law; this is not to be done, however, except for the gravest necessity. If a universal law threatens an undetermined penalty or a discretionary penalty, a particular law can establish in its place a determined or an obligatory penalty.
This is Bruskewitz' justification? I'd like to see more substantiation that this empowers him to apply excommunication, willy-nilly.
Can. 1318 A legislator is not to threaten latae sententiae penalties, except perhaps for some outstanding and malicious offences which may be either more grave by reason of scandal or such that they cannot be effectively punished by ferendae sententiae penalties. He is not, however, to constitute censures, especially excommunication, except with the greatest moderation, and only for the more grave offences.
Obviously this doesn't just refer to the Pope, so it's clear that a bishop can constitute censures of even excommunication.
Belonging to "Call to Action" is a "grave offense"?
Only in the mind of Fabian Bruskewitz.
A "grave offense" in Lincoln is not a "grave offense" in Chicago.
So, the grave offense in Lincoln is not a grave offense.
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