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More devastating Scandal stories coming?
Bettnet.com ^ | June 16, 2004 | Domenico Bettenelli, Jr.

Posted on 06/17/2004 11:20:09 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

Bettinelli reports:

I just got this message from Rod Dreher:

"On Sunday, The Dallas Morning News will begin publishing the results of a major yearlong investigation into a largely uncovered aspect of the Catholic sex abuse scandal. The series of stories are international in scope, and will make headlines nationally and overseas. I’m not at liberty to disclose details yet, but I’ve seen advanced copies of the articles, and they are devastating. I believe at this point, more details will be available on Friday morning, when one of the reporters on the series does an interview on National Public Radio’s “Morning Edition.” The stories will be available on the dallasnews.com website starting either late Saturday night or early Sunday morning.

I expect these stories to dominate conversation among concerned American Catholics next week, and into the early summer (because there will be much more to come; next week’s series only reveals part of what our reporters have uncovered and documented). These findings give lie to the claim from Church officialdom that this scandal is over. The cover-up continues."

Rod Dreher confirms:

"Not only stories, but photographs. I’ve seen the planned cover of Sunday’s DMN. The picture they’re going to run is a jaw-dropper...I hate to tell you this, but the bishops already know. They have known. They hoped you and I wouldn’t find out. That’s part of the story... Also, our people are now talking to national media about this. Starting Friday night, you might be seeing stuff about this. I’ll let Dom and others know if any early media appearances are scheduled."

(Excerpt) Read more at bettnet.dyndns.org ...


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To: GOP Soccer Mom

"Go, Jeb, Go!"


321 posted on 06/17/2004 8:24:56 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
And btw, my Mom excommunicated herself for a few years in the early 60's by marrying outside the Faith

She didn't "excommunicate" herself. She placed herself outside the graces of the Church, but did not leave the Church.

Excommunication is a specific penalty for a specific action. Sin does NOT equal excommunication.

322 posted on 06/17/2004 8:27:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: NYer

**The only ones left to implicate in this scandal are those we have always suspected, that have escaped public exposure.**

Such as Mahoney?


323 posted on 06/17/2004 8:29:58 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sinkspur

I've got plenty of heart but I don't like liars. I stayed away from this thread til now. When a poster tells outright falsehoods it's time to step in.


324 posted on 06/17/2004 8:30:58 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
When a poster tells outright falsehoods it's time to step in.

There have been no falsehoods, unless you're referring to the ancients, who were scandalized by a women left by her husband.

325 posted on 06/17/2004 8:33:11 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Oh, for pity's sake, Peach was seven years old when all this happened. Give her a break. All she knows is that the Catholic church was not warm and fuzzy about her family's trauma. Any religion that is so dogmatic that it does not relate to the weakest of it's parishoners is worthless. The Bible says that who so ever believeth in him shall have everlasting last life, it doesn't mention anything about unless you break the rules of the Catholic church.


326 posted on 06/17/2004 8:35:31 PM PDT by Eva
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To: r9etb

**I can -- for example, suppose that there were priests who "shared" their conquests with other priests. Suppose there were websites, pictures, and "procurement agencies." Suppose there were all sorts of Catholic clergy, up to and including bishops (and higher?) involved.**

And with an international flair from what I can fathom.


327 posted on 06/17/2004 8:35:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Alberta's Child
I would challenge anyone who makes such an assertion to cite a specific source in Catholic doctrine in support of that claim.

I'm pretty sure its not doctrine (LOL); like Peach, all I have is anecdotal. I know it has happened as Peach has described although I don't know how pervasive it was...I'm talking 1950 - 1960's era. Vatican II might have something to do with why you don't hear about this type of thing today but there certainly were whisperings about why "so and so" wasn't at Mass Pre-Vatican II and I know that an abandoned spouse/family was, unfortunately, one scandal the Parish I was in would not tolerate. Pity...just when help was needed the most.
328 posted on 06/17/2004 8:36:15 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: maryz
You're right about the situation. I remember it was even worse in the 50s. As far as I know, though, it was priests who were either badly educated in the faith or had other problems.

I agree, maryz...the Church was quite different in the 1950 & 1960's.
329 posted on 06/17/2004 8:38:32 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: Eva
Any religion that is so dogmatic that it does not relate to the weakest of it's parishoners is worthless.

Yep.

330 posted on 06/17/2004 8:38:52 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Eva
I'm not criticizing Peach for wounds incurred as a 7 year old. I take issue with her erroneous assertions TODAY about the Catholic Church and divorce. I've been through the process.

Any religion that is so dogmatic that it does not relate to the weakest of it's parishoners is worthless.

Any poster who bashes Catholics like you just did must be pretty worthless herself. How disgusting.

331 posted on 06/17/2004 8:41:00 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Salvation
And many of the Catholics treated in that way with falsehoods are now coming back to the Church.

That is wonderful news! Even with its problems, I love the Catholic Church. We (all Christians) can't help our inherited sinful nature but we can strive to be more Christlike.
332 posted on 06/17/2004 8:43:57 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: sinkspur; narses; Land of the Irish; ultima ratio; Viva Christo Rey; AAABEST
Any religion that is so dogmatic that it does not relate to the weakest of it's parishoners is worthless.

Yep.

330 posted on 06/17/2004 8:38:52 PM PDT by sinkspur

Let me get this straight. A "Catholic" deacon just called the Catholic Church worthless. sink, I rarely if ever have made an issue out of this but this statement is so far beyond anything you have ever said I am flabbergasted. You need a spanking.

333 posted on 06/17/2004 8:44:52 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Alberta's Child

Oh, you....! LOL (took me a minute!)


334 posted on 06/17/2004 8:45:13 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
I take issue with her erroneous assertions TODAY about the Catholic Church and divorce. I've been through the process.

She didn't talk about TODAY, except that silly quote from the Diocese of Lincoln.

If Lincoln is her model, no wonder she's not ready to come back to the Church.

You got a quickie annulment, which you would not have gotten in the days before Vatican II.

335 posted on 06/17/2004 8:46:17 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Deborah are you familiar with this peer ministry?

Beginning Experience

We reach out to those who have suffered through a death, divorce, separation or loss of a loved child or parent. A valid resource in your area awaits your recommendations!

336 posted on 06/17/2004 8:46:49 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sinkspur

In the days before Vatican II I would not have married in the first place. The thing was a disaster from start to finish. We never would have made it to the wedding.


337 posted on 06/17/2004 8:47:42 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
If the Church neglects the weakest among us, then that Church is worthless.

Thankfully, the Catholic Church does not do that.

My wife would not take kindly to your spanking me.

338 posted on 06/17/2004 8:48:49 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Peach
I have not changed my story with the exception that, without going back to look, I said that Father John said "we" could not receive the sacrament anymore. That is the generic we of an 7 year old who was too young to attend church alone without a parent accompanying her.

You also changed your story by saying your father "walked out" and THAT was the reason for the denial of the sacraments. Then you changed it to say that it was because of divorce, which you were not clear about in the original story.

Also, even if your mother believed the priest when he said she couldn't receive the sacraments, it didn't mean she was not allowed to attend Mass and take you with her.

By the way, if you were only 7 at the time and were the eldest, none of the children in your family would have even had their First Communion anyway. Back then First Eucharist was received in the 3rd grade at age 8. I suspect there's more to this story than you pose.

Perhaps it is better if you don't post personal stories, if you are so thin-skinned that you perceive skepticism of your ever-changing anecdote as an attack.

339 posted on 06/17/2004 8:48:52 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: Salvation

I am happy I am divorced. I am thrilled! The only thing I regret is marrying the con artist bum in the first place. The only wounds I have are the empty bank account and the humiliation of involving myself with a user.

The worst day of my life was my wedding day. The day we split was one of the happiest days of my life.


340 posted on 06/17/2004 8:52:17 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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