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More devastating Scandal stories coming?
Bettnet.com ^ | June 16, 2004 | Domenico Bettenelli, Jr.

Posted on 06/17/2004 11:20:09 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

Bettinelli reports:

I just got this message from Rod Dreher:

"On Sunday, The Dallas Morning News will begin publishing the results of a major yearlong investigation into a largely uncovered aspect of the Catholic sex abuse scandal. The series of stories are international in scope, and will make headlines nationally and overseas. I’m not at liberty to disclose details yet, but I’ve seen advanced copies of the articles, and they are devastating. I believe at this point, more details will be available on Friday morning, when one of the reporters on the series does an interview on National Public Radio’s “Morning Edition.” The stories will be available on the dallasnews.com website starting either late Saturday night or early Sunday morning.

I expect these stories to dominate conversation among concerned American Catholics next week, and into the early summer (because there will be much more to come; next week’s series only reveals part of what our reporters have uncovered and documented). These findings give lie to the claim from Church officialdom that this scandal is over. The cover-up continues."

Rod Dreher confirms:

"Not only stories, but photographs. I’ve seen the planned cover of Sunday’s DMN. The picture they’re going to run is a jaw-dropper...I hate to tell you this, but the bishops already know. They have known. They hoped you and I wouldn’t find out. That’s part of the story... Also, our people are now talking to national media about this. Starting Friday night, you might be seeing stuff about this. I’ll let Dom and others know if any early media appearances are scheduled."

(Excerpt) Read more at bettnet.dyndns.org ...


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To: fooman

Actually I never read the Da Vinci Code because a screaming liberal I know read it. She told me that it told the truth about the Catholic Church and that Christ was married and blah, blah, blah, patriarchial cult, blah, blah, blah enslave women, blah, blah, blah. I left the room and rolled my eyes and made a mental note never to read such unsubstantiated drivel. But that's just me. There is a Chapel near my work place that I go to at lunch. The priest there gave a seminar rebutting the book. So this has come up in discussion many times.


281 posted on 06/17/2004 5:55:17 PM PDT by Jaded (Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain)
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To: JohnnyZ

Not sure if you're right or wrong, JohnnyZ, but really admire your forceful defense and love of the Church. That's as necessary as the ability to level well deserved criticism.


282 posted on 06/17/2004 6:02:59 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ('Bringing into captivity every understanding to the obedience of Christ.')
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To: Peach

Do you have any objections to the answers given in the 1997 web-page you copied here?


283 posted on 06/17/2004 6:06:51 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Jaded
Honestly, I don't see any scandal that could be more earth shattering than what has already been experienced

...except for the possibility of direct involvement by one or more members of the Curia in similar scandals/coverups.

284 posted on 06/17/2004 6:09:57 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Jaded

I knew the book was crap when a fellow who had read it was enthusing about it----and he recalled that much of what was in the book was what he learned on entering THE MASONIC LODGE!

Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!


285 posted on 06/17/2004 6:11:45 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: SuziQ

I doubt from the backlash on this thread that Peach will consider returning anytime soon. I'm exhausted from just reading it. I hope these Freepers don't act like this in church!


286 posted on 06/17/2004 6:23:33 PM PDT by VA40
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To: ninenot

Nope.


287 posted on 06/17/2004 6:28:19 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: SwankyC

I'm not sure what that means. ???


288 posted on 06/17/2004 6:38:21 PM PDT by GOP Soccer Mom (John 6:30-69)
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To: nmh
Yeah, I know ... if you dare to legitimately criticize the ongoing hypocrisy labels you a "Catholic basher". Still people will put their faith and follow the teachings of this church. Amazing!

Yes, we put our faith in this Church, because, regardless of what the men in charge do, or how some of them misrepresent the intents, it is still the True Church that Christ Jesus founded. Plenty of Catholics still recognize the hypocrisy of some (a very few) priests and bishops, and yet there is a way to criticize for this without bashing the Church.

289 posted on 06/17/2004 6:44:04 PM PDT by GOP Soccer Mom (John 6:30-69)
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To: nmh
The Judeo Christian God is certainly not synonymous with the Catholic church. The teachings and deeds are worlds apart. In fact they are opposite ends of the moral spectrum.

Now THAT shows a lack of knowledge of the Catholic Church. May I recommend taking a look at this site:

http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZINDEX.HTM

as well as this one:

http://www.catholic.com

Both can clear up some obvious misconceptions about the Church. Obviously, you would have to have an open mind (or at least half-open) if you are to get anything out of it. But they can both be real eye-openers, even for Catholics themselves. One of the real crimes that has gone on in the Church for the past 40 years is the lack of real solid teaching on the Doctrines of the Faith. If we had been better educated on the Church, we would be able to explain things quite a bit better, and understand more of our own Faith.

290 posted on 06/17/2004 6:50:18 PM PDT by GOP Soccer Mom (John 6:30-69)
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To: liberty or death
Good golly. It's not the FAITH, it's the PEOPLE who messed up. The Catholic Faith is unchanged and as valid as ever.

*frustrated grumbles*

291 posted on 06/17/2004 6:56:54 PM PDT by GOP Soccer Mom (John 6:30-69)
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To: sneakers

Thanks. I can't take credit for that. I've been watching EWTN a lot lately. :)


292 posted on 06/17/2004 6:58:35 PM PDT by GOP Soccer Mom (John 6:30-69)
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To: Peach
Note this Catholic Church web site, printed in 1997. Things were even worse in the early 60's.

If you have no objections to the materials on the website which you posted, then exactly what does the above line mean?

One infers that you think this 1997 material is "bad" if the 1960's were "worse."

293 posted on 06/17/2004 7:06:58 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Jaded
re: Windswept House

I went to your link, and checked the summary for the book. Here is the first sentence. I'll tell you that it lost me after exactly six words. A much more interesting book would probably be Father Elijah, or anything by Bud McFarlen.

Anyway, here is the first sentence.

A Black Mass in the Vatican in 1963 gets Malachi's first novel since Vatican (1985) off to a wicked start.

294 posted on 06/17/2004 7:09:08 PM PDT by GOP Soccer Mom (John 6:30-69)
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To: ninenot

I have no objections to it because I am no longer a practicing Catholic.

I posted it only to show some freepers who called me a liar and said that the Catholic church did not stop separated women from receiving the sacrament.

If in 1998 the official policy of the Catholic church is that divorced women sometimes can receive the sacrament and they need to check with the specific parish to see what their position is, you can well imagine what things were like in 1963.

MUCH harsher. But do I care what they do today? Nope. Doesn't affect me at all.


295 posted on 06/17/2004 7:14:55 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: GOP Soccer Mom

Malachi Martin was heavy into conspiracy theories toward the end of his life, and had crawled into bed with integrists.


296 posted on 06/17/2004 7:19:11 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur

My in-laws tell a story of many years ago, where the local catholic church would post how much each family gave the week before. These were very poor people in a mining town in PA. How embarassing that must have been!


297 posted on 06/17/2004 7:22:29 PM PDT by Siouxz
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To: Peach
Peach, in all honesty, what you posted above says "divorced and remarried Catholics may not receive the Eucharist." That's always been the Church's teaching.

However, what you described earlier was also the case, that divorced and separated Catholics were treated as virtual pariahs in the Church prior to 1965.

Jesus didn't come for the healthy, but for the sick, meaning those who were broken in spirit and in their relationships.

298 posted on 06/17/2004 7:22:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Siouxz
My in-laws tell a story of many years ago, where the local catholic church would post how much each family gave the week before.

I wouldn't register in such a parish, even if I went to Mass there.

299 posted on 06/17/2004 7:23:52 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur

I should have highlighted the last sentence:

Catholics who are divorced but not remarried should consult their confessors or a parish priest as to whether they may receive Holy Communion. In certain circumstances they are allowed to do so.

Reprinted from January 17, 1997

http://www.dioceseoflincoln.org/purple/divorce/#6

Considering that was their position on divorced women, and still is today in 1997, you can well imagine how much more severe it was for separated and getting divorced women in 1963!


300 posted on 06/17/2004 7:25:26 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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