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Female Ky. School Workers See Strip Show
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Posted on 06/17/2004 7:21:12 AM PDT by esryle

COVINGTON, Ky. (AP) -- When Covington schools Superintendent Jack Moreland saw an advertisement for a Chippendales show, he thought it would be a good morale booster for his female employees. So he shelled out $420 to send 20 female staff members to a Chippendales show to see buff men strip off most of their clothing.

It worked, but it also raised the ire of at least one person, who wrote an anonymous letter to the state Office of Education Accountability accusing Moreland of using school-district funds to pay for the strip show.

Moreland said he spent $420 of his own money for the show - and faxed his personal credit-card receipt to investigators.

"I did it in fun, and they went in fun, and I don't think there was any harm done," he said.

Bryan Jones, a lawyer for the Office of Education Accountability, said he couldn't confirm or deny whether his office looked into a complaint.

The women who attended the show said they enjoyed it.

"We just laughed and laughed and laughed," said Jena Meehan, the superintendent's secretary. "It was a spectacle, to be sure, and to have all of us there was even funnier."

Chippendales is a high-class male revue that became popular in the 1980s. Well-muscled young men wearing bow-ties and bare chests strip to scanty undies for female audiences.

Moreland is the former president of the Council for Better Education, the superintendents group that brought the historic lawsuit that resulted in the Kentucky Education Reform Act of 1990 and its revolutionary reform of Kentucky's public schools.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: governmenteducation; homeschoolnow; kentucky; moralrelativism; romans1; sexed; sexeducation; whateverfeelsgood
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To: Modernman

"Now, in most states, your employer could fire you for engaging in immoral behavior off the job, "

Not unless you have them sign a morals contract first. Of course you could make up some other reason to fire them but if you fire someone for morals they can not only claim unemployment insurance but could also sue you, assuming it was worthwhile.


81 posted on 06/17/2004 10:11:44 AM PDT by monday
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To: 54-46 Was My Number; mhking
I believe this qualifies as a "Just DAMN" scenario. Talk about piss-poor judgment.
I think this is where to send it ...

Ping! ;-)

82 posted on 06/17/2004 10:12:00 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Have a nice day or else!)
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To: been_lurking
"If they weren't married, say single and shopping, would that be O.K?"

It wouldn't be ok, because the Superintendent is promoting public nudity.

83 posted on 06/17/2004 10:14:55 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: esryle
Chippendales is a high-class male revue that became popular.....

Ummmm...anything that involves folks stripping and humping the air to entertain people of the opposite sex can't be classified as "high-class"...

But regardless of the morality of the Chippendale show, the use of school funds absolutely throws this off the deep end. The Jack The Jerk should loose his job. What's the difference between this guy taking/sending his female staff members to a Chippendales show, and a classroom teacher sending their graduating male Seniors (who are 18) to a strip joint?

84 posted on 06/17/2004 10:18:49 AM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: DannyTN

"It wouldn't be ok, because the Superintendent is promoting public nudity."

Strictly speaking, it isn't "public nudity". No one is there without consent. No children are present. Public nudity is illegal.


85 posted on 06/17/2004 10:19:11 AM PDT by monday
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To: TheBattman

"the use of school funds absolutely throws this off the deep end."

He didn't use school funds. Read more carefully.


86 posted on 06/17/2004 10:21:10 AM PDT by monday
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To: DannyTN
It wouldn't be ok, because the Superintendent is promoting public nudity.

You wouldn't be a Taliban burka salesman by chance? I hope not, I understand business is way down in that field.

87 posted on 06/17/2004 10:22:58 AM PDT by been_lurking
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To: BipolarBob
This is sex discrimination against the MALE workers who have low morale. They should be treated acoordingly.

They should be sent to a Chippendales show? LOL

88 posted on 06/17/2004 10:25:58 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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To: been_lurking
"You wouldn't be a Taliban burka salesman by chance? "

Oh that's right anybody wanting any semblance of morality enforced in the public arena is instantly equated with the Taliban.

It must really please you when the Democrats go do their nude protest thing. Do you join them?

89 posted on 06/17/2004 10:28:09 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: esryle
My, but the prudes are out in force. The money used was private money; no one was forced to go; no one who went complained; and everyone of these folks was an adult.

Of course, we can't have anyone having a good time in a non-prescribed (by the self-appointed guardians of our souls) fashion, can we?

90 posted on 06/17/2004 10:30:38 AM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: monday

I somehow missed that - must have been blinded by my disgust....

Still very inappropriate. And my analogy still applies.


91 posted on 06/17/2004 10:31:48 AM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: Bigg Red

I guess if you get a job as a teacher, you've got to give up having a life, huh? These folks are adults and no one was hurt.


92 posted on 06/17/2004 10:31:55 AM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: esryle
Female Ky. School Workers See Strip Show

If he did it with his own money, and attendance was voluntary, then you GO, girl!
93 posted on 06/17/2004 10:33:30 AM PDT by Xenalyte (This dog bite me.)
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To: Bigg Red
it was wholly inappropriate for women involved in the education of children to be seen at such an establishment.

Not "to be there," but "to be seen" there. So if they'd been in a private room with the dancers, away from the rest of the audience who could ID them, it'd be okay?
94 posted on 06/17/2004 10:34:42 AM PDT by Xenalyte (This dog bite me.)
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To: DannyTN
Oh that's right anybody wanting any semblance of morality enforced in the public arena

There was no immorality in a public arena here. In any event, you cannot enforce morality. You can only enforce the law.

95 posted on 06/17/2004 10:36:12 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: af_vet_1981

I always ask myself, "What would Brian Boitano do if he were here right now?"


96 posted on 06/17/2004 10:36:21 AM PDT by Xenalyte (This dog bite me.)
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To: af_vet_1981
No, she will simply validate their value system as the nation continues slouching toward Sodom and Gomorrah.

"Validate their value system"? Ugh. What's the girl supposed to do, adopt all five illegitimate children and take her students to get their tubes tied?
97 posted on 06/17/2004 10:38:44 AM PDT by Xenalyte (This dog bite me.)
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To: Xenalyte
So if they'd been in a private room with the dancers, away from the rest of the audience who could ID them, it'd be okay?

Look, whatever you choose to do on your nights off is nobody's else's business.

98 posted on 06/17/2004 10:39:10 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: judgeandjury

I'm not saying this particular incident is going to result in a harassment suit (however, an enterprising goldigger could make some scratch). This guy is just showing an amazing amount of bad taste. He's opening a Pandora's box of problems.


99 posted on 06/17/2004 10:40:13 AM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Modernman; Bigg Red

That's what I was asking. Redd's post indicated that their mistake was in "being seen" in the establishment, not necessarily being there in the first place.


100 posted on 06/17/2004 10:40:22 AM PDT by Xenalyte (This dog bite me.)
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