OK, let's put your moral relativism in overdrive.
Same amount of clothing, dancing and touching involved.
Is this a "peep show"?
Posted on 06/17/2004 7:21:12 AM PDT by esryle
COVINGTON, Ky. (AP) -- When Covington schools Superintendent Jack Moreland saw an advertisement for a Chippendales show, he thought it would be a good morale booster for his female employees. So he shelled out $420 to send 20 female staff members to a Chippendales show to see buff men strip off most of their clothing.
It worked, but it also raised the ire of at least one person, who wrote an anonymous letter to the state Office of Education Accountability accusing Moreland of using school-district funds to pay for the strip show.
Moreland said he spent $420 of his own money for the show - and faxed his personal credit-card receipt to investigators.
"I did it in fun, and they went in fun, and I don't think there was any harm done," he said.
Bryan Jones, a lawyer for the Office of Education Accountability, said he couldn't confirm or deny whether his office looked into a complaint.
The women who attended the show said they enjoyed it.
"We just laughed and laughed and laughed," said Jena Meehan, the superintendent's secretary. "It was a spectacle, to be sure, and to have all of us there was even funnier."
Chippendales is a high-class male revue that became popular in the 1980s. Well-muscled young men wearing bow-ties and bare chests strip to scanty undies for female audiences.
Moreland is the former president of the Council for Better Education, the superintendents group that brought the historic lawsuit that resulted in the Kentucky Education Reform Act of 1990 and its revolutionary reform of Kentucky's public schools.
Is this the spirit of tolerance, the spirit of diversity, the spirit of inclusiveness, the spirit of the rainbow flag welcoming all colors of the post-rain mist, rearing its lovely head? Or is it that your opinion of this poster is actually worse than what you wrote and this was the best compliment you could muster?
The fact remains that ONE anonymous letter (lacking the courage borne of convictions people send anonymous letters to complain about things) is all the complaints that the article mentions.
I'll take R3D3 over you and Danny.
OK, let's put your moral relativism in overdrive.
Same amount of clothing, dancing and touching involved.
Is this a "peep show"?
Would this be the same set of State Laws that allows for performances by the Chippendale's troupe to happen in the State?
As if these educators placed an ad in the campus paper announcing this field trip...
Where's the outrage from the community?
Yes. The same state laws that allow:
Do you see how that works. Do you see that some roles in society are held to a higher standard by law? No of course not, because you don't want to see.
Looks like some form of Ballet to me. It may or may not be a peep show. Can't tell from the pic.
When King David danced naked before all Israel, was that a peep show. No. Why? Because of the context.
But you don't understand that either do you? You want everything in a nice neat package that you can all black or white. If it's legal it must be moral. If it's not illegal it's entirely appropriate for everyone to do.
Kentucky doesn't have a lot of TV stations other than PBS ones (Covington only has a PBS outlet). So don't expect liberal-minded Kentuckians to be overly upset. Still, even the Lexington TV station, WKYT, reports that "A school superintendent's idea for a morale booster for his female employees has caused quite a stir" . URL: http://www.wkyt.com/Global/story.asp?S=1948337
Folks, including Covington folks, have just found out about it as of yesterday; so give 'em time to react w/complaints to the school & normal letters to the editor than ensue on these kinds of things.
Are you kidding me? Educators hang together, as if you didn't know that. Whistleblowers are hard to find in any industry--even more so in unionized industries (your pretense of ignorance on this subject won't be accepted as a legit excuse as you've reached your ignorance quota for the week).
There was even a story a month or so ago about cops coming & arresting some high school counselor on-campus because she knew about an abusive situation occuring between a minor student and an adult male, and there were the school's administrators, harking to the media how great this criminal counselor was and how misguided the cops were...even though they gave her a chance to correct her omission before arresting her.
It wasn't the administrators or peers on that campus who blew the whistle on this guidance counselor. Nope. Union members stick together for the most part.
Wake up and smell the toast... it's burnin'!!
The AP is a key player in the misinformation of America. Look what they said about the 9/11 commission yesterday, and the alphabet networks followed them right down the same path!
What I understand Danny, is that your moral relativism is dancing right along with the bump and grind.
And that you've set yourself up as the moral relativity barometer for everyone.
Get help.
Whistleblowers?
Educators?
Where exactly did you see that information?
If that letter was anonymous, how do you know that was either an educator or a whistleblower?
When you're reduced to making up facts to support your points, it means that your points are unsupportable.
Don't tell me about some other story, we're debating this one.
Now, show me where you figured out that the letter of complaint came from and educational whistleblower.
But they won't fire anyone for drinking will they?
Only if they violate the law.
See how easy that was Danny?
The teachers didn't violate any laws.
Ain't America great?
"It worked, but it also raised the ire of at least one person, who wrote an anonymous letter to the state Office of Education Accountability accusing Moreland of using school-district funds to pay for the strip show.""Moreland said he spent $420 of his own money for the show - and faxed his personal credit-card receipt to investigators."
ROTFLMAO!!!
Even the person raising the complaint didn't have a problem with their being at the show, they complained about who paid!
What I understand is that you are worried that there are other parents who think like me. And that could really cramp your style.
You couldn't be more wrong.
I fired somebody for buying a six pack of beer in 2003. Then the Federal Government came in and closed my business because the person had bought the beer, despite the fact that we took immediate action and fired her. And now the state is trying to revoke that person's professional license and they will probably get it.
There's no law and no written policies at the Federal, State or company level saying that that person couldn't buy beer. But that person was a nurse. And for a nurse to buy a six pack of beer while representing my company and give it to a patient that she was treating was wrong on many levels.
She didn't violate any laws. But she sure cost me a lot of money by her stupidity.
Mr. Moreland isn't a principal, he's a CEO of a business enterprise. The ladies on the night out were not teachers, they were receptionists, stenographers, and bookeepers. The Chippendaleles do not perform sex acts. Sweet Mother, the Taliban are alive and well. The whole thread reminds me of the McMartin day care center witch hunt.
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