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To: qam1

"Just because the author needs "The Fear of God" to keep him loving and not leaving his wife doesn't mean other people do, It's pretty sad this author who seems intelligent can't fathom people getting married and staying together because they actually love each other and want to spend the rest of the lives together."


I'm not sure what 'The Fear of God' has to do with anything. It seems so often I hear people assuming that's all religion is. God is just a super-nanny that tells people what to do or they'll get punished. It's their loss if that's the only God they are capable of conceiving of.

As for two people loving each other. Certainly this is not restricted to religios people. Marriage is never a completely smooth road, however. Problems come up. If the relationship is founded solely on what the two people feel for each other and not on some sense of obligation and commitment, it won't last because feelings change.

It takes two people for marriage. I think you'll find that in any divorce where one has a belief in the responsibilities entailed in marriage and one that has no such belief, it's usually latter that initiates the divorce. The number given are say nothing about this. If the husband gets a divorce, the wife must also get a divorce (and vice versa), even if she didn't want it. One problems today is that two people may not be particularly religious at the time the get married. Later on, one of them does become more committed, perhaps in part because the marriage itself is not going to smoothly and doesn't satisfy him/her. The reverse may also be true. Two religious people get married. One changes. Divorce.


170 posted on 06/15/2004 9:33:54 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: nosofar
As for two people loving each other. Certainly this is not restricted to religios people. Marriage is never a completely smooth road, however. Problems come up. If the relationship is founded solely on what the two people feel for each other and not on some sense of obligation and commitment, it won't last because feelings change.

The idea that just because a couple doesn't believe in your God means they can't make a commitment or have a sense of obligation is just so wrong on so many levels.

It should be what you feel for each other that gives you your sense of obligation and commitment not the other way around. If it were the other way around we might as well bring back arranged marriages.    

And again the statistics don't back up your claim, If what you were saying were true in that a marriage between people with no religion "will not last"  the divorce rate would be like 90+% among people who have no religion instead of it being around everybody else's. In case you didn't realize people have long marriages in China and Russia and people got married and stayed together long before Christianity and I'm sure they will long after it is gone.

It takes two people for marriage. I think you'll find that in any divorce where one has a belief in the responsibilities entailed in marriage and one that has no such belief, it's usually latter that initiates the divorce. The number given are say nothing about this. If the husband gets a divorce, the wife must also get a divorce (and vice versa), even if she didn't want it. One problems today is that two people may not be particularly religious at the time the get married. Later on, one of them does become more committed, perhaps in part because the marriage itself is not going to smoothly and doesn't satisfy him/her. The reverse may also be true. Two religious people get married. One changes. Divorce.

Not at all, if you go to the link and go to page 25 there is a table "Switched in / Switched out". From 1990-2001 a lot more people over 18 (Net 5.5 Million) have abandoned religion than found it, Yet the divorce rate has remained constant over this time period. If what you are saying were true than the divorce rate should have skyrocketed. 

Sorry but no matter how much you wish it were true, Relgiousness doesn't corolate with the divorce rate or any other morals in general.

181 posted on 06/15/2004 10:04:13 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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