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Here is how the media would cover D-Day today
King County Journal ^ | June 13, 2004 | John Carlson

Posted on 06/13/2004 5:11:49 PM PDT by Stoat

Every day I receive letters from soldiers in Iraq reporting many, many positive things that people don't hear about because the national news media only seems to spotlight what's going wrong. Contrast that with the commemoration last week of the 60th anniversary of the invasion of Normandy to drive fascism from Europe. I wonder how the media would cover D-Day if it happened today instead of six decades ago. Probably something like this....

Americans Far from United on European Invasion

High death toll stuns allies; quagmire is feared

While President Roosevelt enjoys an election-year bounce in overnight polls from the Allied invasion of Normandy, the first day toll of 6,603 American casualties has triggered a reassessment of the risky invasion among prominent opinion leaders.

``Are we going to save France by destroying it?'' asked a spokesman for the anti-war group MoveBack. ``What's worse, German troops marching down Parisian streets or American bombs destroying French farms and villages?''

It appears that American military planners badly underestimated the difficulty of the task and the tenacity of German fighters. Several retired American generals now embedded in television studios as military analysts have told network audiences that the invasion should never have been launched in such hazardous conditions, resulting in many troops drowning near soldiers who were ordered to ignore their cries for help and hit the beaches.

``Let me say for the record,'' declared former Brig. General Victor Veeshee on CNN, ``that while we saw immense bravery on the beaches among the troops, we saw callous disregard for their safety from their superiors up the chain of command. Gen. Eisenhower, President Roosevelt and Churchill have spent too much time chained to a desk. Land invasions should not begin with scaling cliffs into machine gun fire.''

The staggering casualty count together with stiff German resistance and the slow pace of progress suggest that America may be entangled in a European quagmire.

``Why are we invading France when there are only small pockets of French resistance there?'' Asked Sen. Robert Byrd on NBC `` We're stuck, spinning our wheels while the president tells us that attacking Germans in France will help win the global war against tyranny. We weren't attacked by Germany! We were attacked by Japan!''

Senator Byrd was not the only angry legislator on Capitol Hill. According to a page-one New York Times story, leaked military documents reveal that some troops from the 101st Airborne have been implicated by military authorities in several instances of looting, assault and rape. Photos of several victims and their injuries were displayed in newspapers around the world and across America, bringing an angry Ted Kennedy to the Senate floor:

``Unfortunately, the practice of terrorizing civilians by Nazis in France is now taking place under new management by American paratroopers,'' he said. Kennedy has rallied other anti-war members of Congress to demand an investigation into how high up the chain of command these atrocities were known about and perhaps encouraged.

Compounding the embarrassment were allegations from the independent, Poland-based news service Al Germaina claiming that German prisoners have been summarily executed by American prison guards, in contravention of the Geneva convention. ``What did Gen. Eisenhower know and when did he know it?'' asked House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi. She said congressional hearings would be scheduled soon.

And more bad news came this morning for Gen. Eisenhower, already under fire for his high risk strategy in Normandy. The anti tobacco group ``Smoke Free War Zone'' announced that Congress will also hold hearings on the high number of news photos showing soldiers with cigarettes in their mouths, which they claimed sends the wrong message about tobacco to young people.

``You would think that the tobacco industry itself was publishing these photos,'' groused Congressman Henry Waxman to Katie Couric on `The Today Show.' ``Our national security is not enhanced by soldiers getting cancer.''

He expressed anger that some platoon leaders are telling soldiers to ``smoke 'em if you got 'em,'' and cited his continuing frustration with General Eisenhower -- a smoker himself -- for not returning his phone calls. ``Like most members of this administration, he appears to have his priorities out of order,'' Waxman said

The general was later seen fleeing into a British bunker under the protection of Winston Churchill to escape the American media, interest groups and politicians.

``I'd like to focus my attention on winning this World War, if that's OK,'' he reportedly said before disappearing underground.

(Part of this article was adapted by a piece written a decade ago. Alas, the Iraq war makes the topic more timely than ever).

John Carlson is founder of Washington Policy Center and can be heard daily from 3-6 p.m. on radio station KVI-570. His column appears every other Sunday. Readers can contact him via e-mail at jcarlson@fisherradio.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dday; ddaycomparison; iraq; johncarlson; mediabias; ww2comparison; wwii

1 posted on 06/13/2004 5:11:50 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: CyberCowboy777; Libertina

ping


2 posted on 06/13/2004 5:14:07 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Stoat

LOL


3 posted on 06/13/2004 5:15:39 PM PDT by Arpege92 (Republicans believe everyday is the 4th of July, Democrats believe everyday is April 15th - Gipper)
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To: Stoat

Excellent! Bump


4 posted on 06/13/2004 5:15:49 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Stoat

During the dedication of the WWII memorial, one of the news people said the soldiers who fought the war "saved our freedom". By today's "logic", you would have to dispute that. Even though Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, it was unlikely they would do so again, even before Midway, and they never had a real capacity to invade the U.S., and Germany had even less of one, not to mention that, as the fictional Senator Byrd above says, we were never attacked by Germany.


5 posted on 06/13/2004 5:24:52 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: Stoat

BTTT


6 posted on 06/13/2004 5:25:34 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Stoat

..."Allied forces continue to be ambushed by Nazi insurgents along the hedgerows of the French countryside.

Numerous film footage of these ambushes has been shown world-wide by the Al Nazeera network. In all documented film reports, the American invaders are shown as being armed, which is a violation of previously-signed Nazi-agreements with Great Britian.

The Fuhrer has denounced the Amewrican invasion as "an despoiling of the European landscape by foreigners" and is vowing revenge.

"Europe cannot be safe as long as the savage invaders from across the ocean threaten us."..Hitler said, in an audio tape released this morning.


7 posted on 06/13/2004 5:31:23 PM PDT by jolie560 (hE)
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To: lasereye
By today's "logic", you would have to dispute that. Even though Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, it was unlikely they would do so again, even before Midway, and they never had a real capacity to invade the U.S., and Germany had even less of one, not to mention that, as the fictional Senator Byrd above says, we were never attacked by Germany.

Were the V-1 rockets an imminent danger? Shouldn't we have waited for Hitler to perfect the technology and prepare to use it before we rushed to war to stop him?

-PJ

8 posted on 06/13/2004 5:37:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Stoat
"Had FDR had to endure such a hostile press during WWII, the western half of America would now be speaking Japanese, and the eastern half German. Then again, if Abe Lincoln had had to endure such a seditious press, he would have been forced to let the Confederate states go, and with them, the Union. Lincoln’s solution was to have all Northern newspapers critical of him shut down for the duration of the war.

"(Heck, some Timesmen -- and lefty scribes elsewhere -- hate the President so much, that they appeared to wish him dead [12], on the occasion of last year’s secret Thanksgiving Day trip to visit our troops in Iraq.)"

Nicholas Stix, The Social Construction of Atrocity: The New York Times and Abu Ghraib, May 18, 2004

9 posted on 06/13/2004 6:19:22 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: Stoat

A Real Quagmire and One That Isn't


The dedication of the World War II monument in Washington D.C. provides us with more than just an opportunity to express gratitude to one of the greatest generations in American history for their valor, sacrifice, and devotion to duty has they defeated one of the gravest threats to enlightened civilization in history. It also provides us with an opportunity to examine the historical record of World War II and contextualize it in relation to the current situation in Iraq.

If one wishes to adopt the outlook of the contemporary critics of the Iraq enterprise, than World War II could have been characterized as an endless quagmire that we could never win. Relatively few people are aware that the strategic bombing campaign in 1943 nearly ground to a halt when the deep penetration raids into Germany were called off after the staggering heavy bomber losses of the Schweinfurt and Regensberg missions. (So brilliantly characterized in the great World War II movie "12 o'clock High") No one was whining loudly and publicly about the fact that the self defending bomber formation concept was flawed and had revealed itself to be so by not having a long-range fighter escort ready at the time. We are so used to the Air Force sustaining almost no casualties in current day operations that we often forget that the 8th Air Force based in England suffered more dead (26,000) than the entire Marine Corps did in World War II (less than 20,000) There were no loudly public howls of quagmire, quagmire we can't win this.

How about the night naval battle off Savo Island, Guadalcanal in August of 1942 in which the United States Navy, defeated by a Japanese navy far better versed in night fighting tactics, sailed away and left the Marines stranded on Guadalcanal with no immediate hope of supply? There weren't any howls of quagmire, quagmire we can't win.

How about the slaughter off the Eastern Seaboard of the United States in 1942 in which the U-boats of the German Kreigsmarine during Operation Drumbeat sunk 500 allied merchant and navy ships in a six-month period in the greatest naval disaster in United States history? There was an almost incomprehensible failure to develop an efficient convoy escort system despite the lessons of World War I. Again no howls of quagmire, quagmire we can't win, let's make the Secretary of War and Chief of Naval Operations resign.

How about the Kasserine pass in Tunisia in February of 1943? The tough panzergrenadiers of Rommel's Afrika Corps soundly defeated and routed green American troops, sending them into pell mell retreat. Again no howls of quagmire, quagmire these Germans are just too battle hardened and ruthless to beat.

Relatively little is known of the bloody check inflicted on units of the 1st, 4th, 28th, and 9th infantry divisions by the Germans during the battle of Huertegen Forest during Sep- Nov of 1944 as a prelude to the Battle of the Bulge. The men of these units were attrited horribly in one the most soul destroying campaigns in American history, comparable to the Wilderness and Cold Harbor campaigns of the Civil War. Winston Churchill called it "Passchendale with tree bursts." Or the Battle of the Bulge's disastrous opening on the Schnee Eifel in Belgium where intelligence failures allowed a totally surprised American Army to lose to captivity two whole infantry regiments of the 106th infantry division in the opening rounds of the battle? Again no howls of quagmire, quagmire we just can't win.

Or how about the defeat inflicted on the allies during Operation Market Garden (a Bridge Too Far) in 1944 when everyone knew that the Germans were already beaten? Or the horrendous losses off Okinawa? Or the failure to ensure sufficient numbers of tracked landing craft at Tarawa due to a misinterpretation of the meteorological conditions affecting the tides around Betio atoll? Nearly 1,000 Marines died in a 76 hour battle for an atoll smaller than Manhattan's Central Park, many because they had to wade hundreds of yards to shore from Betio's lagoon after their landing craft hung up on the reef. Or the largely unnecessary Pelielu campaign in which 1,800 were killed and 8,500 wounded? Or the bloody repulse at Italy’s Rapido River in January of 1944, or the grinding stalemate at Anzio or the entire checkmated Italian campaign, hopelessly bogged down in the Liri Valley before Monte Cassino? Even though the Rapido River attack generated enormous controversy, culminating in a congressional inquiry, it did not commence until the war was over. Or, due to logistical failures, the inability to maintain the pressure on a retreating German Army, shattered in Normandy, which allowed it to refit and regroup behind the Westwall, lengthening the war and costing thousands of lives. Again no howls of quagmire, quagmire we can't win.

We often forget that World War II was no unrelieved string of victories until the final triumph. We often suffered defeat on the battlefield, sometimes catastrophic ones, but we prevailed because we knew that we had to, since the alternative to victory was just too bitter to contemplate. In 1944, after the Tarawa bloodbath was over, there was a great dispute over whether or not to show the gruesome color film shot by combat cameramen of dead Marines floating in the lagoon of Betio, their bloated, rapidly decomposing corpses turning black in the hot equatorial sun and piled in ragged heaps on the beach. It was feared that the hideous sights would damage home front morale too much. The decision was made by President Roosevelt to release the film and trust that this would impress upon the public the gravity of the maelstrom that their sons were being flung into. The decision was correct. War bond sales skyrocketed after the release of the film, and war production soared as the American people realized that their support for the war effort would help to return their men with victory in hand that much sooner. While our forces in Iraq embody the same sort of heroism and devotion to duty as their predecessors, I wonder if the present day home front is made up of the same stern stuff as its antecedent. I certainly hope so and time will tell.

America’s fighting forces of World War II responded to the above described setbacks with a mix of determination, grim courage, innovation, and a uniquely American quality that historian Victor Davis Hanson terms as “Civic Militarism.” This can be characterized as a combination of virtues possessed by soldiers of those societies that inculcate their armies with the sense that their positive military contributions are derived from a sense of participatory citizenship.

Nothing even remotely resembling any of these historical disasters of World War II has occurred in Iraq, but these infantile naysayers who try to pose the situation has an absolute defeat are either hopelessly naïve or determined to demoralize our soldiers and willfully undermine this effort. Despite the setbacks that have occurred in Iraq, there is nothing here that cannot be remedied to this country's favor.

Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1...

... The first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.
... Over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.
... Nearly all of Iraq's 400 courts are functioning.
... The Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.
.. On Monday, October 6, power generation hit 4,518 megawatts, exceeding the prewar average.
... All 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.
... By October 1, Coalition forces had rehab-ed over 1,500 schools - 500 more than scheduled.
... Teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.
... All 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.
... Doctor's salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.
... Pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.
... The Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq's children.
... A Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq's 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals which now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.
... We have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.
... There are 4,900 full-service telephone connections. We expect 50,000 by year-end.
... The wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.
... 95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.
... Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.
... The central bank is fully independent.
... Iraq has one of the world's most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.
... Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.
... Satellite TV dishes are legal.
... Foreign journalists aren't on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for minders and other government spies.
... There is no Ministry of Information.
... There are more than 170 newspapers.
... You can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.
... Foreign journalists (and everyone else) are free to come and go.
... A nation that had not one single element -- legislative, judicial or executive -- of a representative government now does.
... In Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils. Baghdad's first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city council elected its new chairman.
... Today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.
... 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq's history, run the day-to-day business of government.
... The Iraqi government regularly participates in international events. Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference Summit. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.
... Shiva religious festivals that were all but banned, aren't.
... For the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.
... The Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.
... Uday and Queasy are dead - and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to the zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq's soccer players for losing games, or murdering critics.
... Children aren't imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree with the government.
... Political opponents aren't imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.
... Millions of long-suffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.
... Saudis will hold municipal elections.
... Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.
... Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.
... The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian
-- A Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace.
.. Saddam is gone.
... Iraq is free.
....The handover of power is on schedule.
….Terrorists are being drawn to an arena in which our military can kill or capture them

Our magnificent soldiers, sailors and airmen still have more tough work to do which will undoubtedly be done with the same mix of courage, humanitarianism, innovation, and competence that has characterized our effort in Iraq to date, Abu Ghraib notwithstanding. But when you compare this effort to that other great effort of World War II that we are presently commemorating, this one looks to be comparatively well in hand. All this was accomplished at almost no cost in strictly military terms, and yes, I am aware that the brutal calculus of war is soulless and necessarily heedless of the irreplaceability of precious individual human beings. But we must also realize that wars in the national interest, as I believe this one to be, require that we be prepared to accept this as a condition of our national security.

Again, I wish to express my undying gratitude to a generation of Americans who showed us how to prevail in a REAL quagmire. And to the Americans who are now getting it done and overcoming the quags in the mire despite those who say they can't or shouldn't. As the ever brilliant Mark Steyn said best in his 30 May Sun-Times column:

“But that's the difference between then and now: the loss of proportion. They had victims galore back in 1863, but they weren't a victim culture. They had a lot of crummy decisions and bureaucratic screwups worth re-examining, but they weren't a nation that prioritized retroactive pseudo-legalistic self-flagellating vaudeville over all else. They had hellish setbacks but they didn't lose sight of the forest in order to obsess week after week on one tiny twig of one weedy little tree. “
“There is something not just ridiculous but unbecoming about a hyperpower 300 million strong whose elites -- from the deranged former vice president down -- want the outcome of a war, and the fate of a nation, to hinge on one freaky jailhouse; elites who are willing to pay any price, bear any burden, as long as it's pain-free, squeaky clean and over in a week. The sheer silliness dishonors the memory of all those we're supposed to be remembering this Memorial Day.”

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. - John Stuart Mill” ~ (1868)


10 posted on 06/13/2004 7:01:51 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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Nice story, but we could add some genuine comments against the War by Joseph P. Kennedy. A staunch isolationist, Kennedy argued for the appeasement of Hitler and wanted the United States to stay out of any conflict that might occur between Britain and Germany. Needless to say, this line was not a big hit with the English people or with conservative leaders such as future Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Kennedy resigned under pressure in 1940, when war became inevitable.


11 posted on 06/14/2004 5:24:45 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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