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To: jammer

"As closely as I listened, I must have missed him zeroing in on that as a sharp rebuke of GWBush. Of all the places where one could and should protest Christian bashing, to quibble over this seems a waste of time and energy."




Then you certainly missed his commentary afterwards, where he, Fineman and Buchanan all pointed to this moment as a definite rubuke of GW Bush. I really paid no attention to it at the time, but Matthews is the idiot, who all week long has been making comparison's of RWR and GWB.

What's worse is that Matthews is just plain wrong. RWR very much wore his faith in public, as almost every speech he gave was laced with religious overtones. From the City on the Hill to even his fight against the Godless communists. For those (like Matthews and Ron Jr.) trying to impart this great difference with regards to Faith, between RWR and Bush...they are wrong.

Matthews went as far as to say that RWR wouldn't approve of this war in Iraq. How does he know? This was a man who tried to assassinate the leader of a country for the bombing of a dicotech in another country; this was a man who led an invasion of a small Carribean island because of the threat communism was making.

To say that after 9/11 RWR wouldn't have done the same...we don't know. And neither does Matthews. My wife who is apolitical actually was disgusted by the whole segment, as was I.


113 posted on 06/12/2004 8:03:16 AM PDT by cwb (If it weren't for Republicans, liberals would have no real enemies)
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To: cwb
My initial post addressed the public use of religion as a way to get votes. It was posted to people who are offended because they thought it referred to Bush. I don't think Bush does that. I think Clinton did, insincerely. I think Carter did, more sincerely.

You're right, I must have missed them saying it was a rebuke of Bush. I'll have to get the transcript. Please see my reply #114. I will say that I didn't watch Matthews except yesterday.

I agree with you that Reagan wore his faith in public--but more wrong than Matthews was Ron Reagan; however, I suppose I inferred the eulogy to be referring to the false piety of Clinton types.

I also agree with you that none of us knows about the war in Iraq. It's all guesswork. The main point of agreement with you is that the discussion had no place here. But, if we are guessing, I would have to agree with Matthews--Reagan would have gone for the real threat, Saudi Arabia and Iran. But that's grist for another forum, and you are certainly correct about not being appropriate.

118 posted on 06/12/2004 8:14:53 AM PDT by jammer
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To: cwb

It's hilarious, all this talk about "wearing one's faith on one's sleeve"... I have so many deeply religious Christian friends... and yes, everything that happens to them, that is good, or bad is thought of as providence, a lesson to be learned, that God in his wisdom has deemed to teach them.

God is all knowing and has a purpose for each of us. Of course becoming President would be viewed by a Christian as something that God wanted. Absolutely..

The real problem with these commies, the Chris Matthews types, is that they hate God. That is the crux of it. And when they are reminded of God, or they hear someone talk of God, they simply cringe... You can see it in their faces... They really do... Their faces crinkle up.. That is a tell (poker term)... Something is going on inside them, that makes their hearts are so full of hatred towards Christians.


125 posted on 06/12/2004 8:37:14 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit (music, music and more music)
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