Posted on 06/11/2004 9:00:42 PM PDT by nuconvert
Did I say Michael, I meant Ron. Ron's eulogy was the one that was politicized. I loved Michael's.
I don't see how anyone could take this to think he directed an insult at Bush because I don't think anyone thinks Bush wears his religion on a sleeve ---- I think we all know Bush is sincere in his faith.
No no no. He was in fact referring to GWB because it is a *talking point* from the left that President Bush thinks he has a divine mandate from God in the war on terror. See?
Of course President Bush does not act or think that way. That's why it's called a "slam" when one accuses him of doing something he isn't guilty of.
RON made that statement, not Michael.
"I don't see how anyone could take this to think he directed an insult at Bush because I don't think anyone thinks Bush wears his religion on a sleeve..."
But I am pretty good at reading between the lines, and judging from YOUR past posts, so are you.
Ron may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he's still smart enough not to risk his inheritance embarrassing Nancy with a slam against Bush yesterday.
I could be wrong...sigh.
Actually, the other poster was claiming the earlobe reference had some homoerotic significance. I was pointing out the absurdity of that claim.
Yeah, that's it. His double entendre passed completely over everyone's head (Except for yours, of course).
Give me a break.
You are 100% correct in your assumption. Chris Matthews could hardly contain himself when telling the audience that they should stick around for Ron's speech because (paraphrasing) "you can never tell what he might have in store since he didn't always follow his father politically blah blah blah.." But Chris's little charade, that he could only guess what would be said, was transparent. Chris is a lousy liar and it was obvious that he was alerted to a Bush slam by his MSNBC cohort, Ron Jr. I'm amazed at the naivety shown by so many who can't, or won't, see the reality of the situation.
The state funeral of a former president of the United States broadcast live to the nation does not simply "belong to the Reagan family." Ron Jr.'s remarks were made in public and he meant to address them to the entire nation. He politicized the event by unfavorably comparing his father's religious fervor, practiced "responsibly" in his opinion (at least, his opinion in the insincere line he was taking in his remarks) as it applied to affairs of state, with GWB's more crass religious convictions, which, again according to young Ron, are mistakenly taken as a "mandate" directly from God. Ron Jr. clearly meant to imply that Bush is some kind of religious nut.
I get a kick out of the people on this thread who don't seem to know that Ron Jr. hates George Bush, and seem to think he had something else in mind when he made the comment. Read the Salon article in Post #86 to get a true picture of who this loser is. He entire adult life has been dedicated to trashing his father and his father's legacy, which he did as recently as 2003 in a four hour American Experience documentary in which he said he never once in his life had a "real conversation" with his father. By his own admission, he is an atheist, so all the stuff his said about his Dad's religious views were dripping with insincerity. As a third rate journalist the only jobs the guy has ever held have been given to him by people who like use his name as a club with which to bash Republicans.
I agree - that's exactly what I thought when I heard it.
Reagan says he doesn't have anything personal against Bush.
Uhhhhhhhhh..okayyyyyyy Ron.....
Why? Ron wanted it in there, it was of significance to him, and it's his father's funeral. That's all the criteria needed.
No different than Reagan with the "evil empire" --- everything that could be said for Bush's faith could be said for Reagan's. And the liberals hate both of them for their genuine and very real faith --- yet love the Clinton's for their very obviously fake faith --- how quick they were to show Clinton with his carefully measured Bible coming out of services at some carefully selected church.
The liberals might be accusing Bush --- I don't know if Ron Jr was --- I just took his speech to be pointing out that his father's faith was genuine --- not the typical faith used by a typical politician.
The finger salute/wave reference should have
been left out, too. Didn't belong at a Christian
service.
I felt the same way. But evidently it's taken others on this board less than one day to go from celebrating the life of a man who didn't let politics get personal to taking just the opposite approach with the man's own son. It's as sickening as anything I've seen in quite a while.
That whole "Bush is a dry drunk" thing must be rife in the ranks of psychologists such as his wife. I get that Constantly from a psychotherapist acquaintance of mine.
If you refer to a politician who is wearing his religion on his sleeve --- I think most listeners wouldn't think you mean Nader -- he doesn't seem to do that, you wouldn't think of Bush because people know Bush is genuine in his faith, you might think of Kerry because he obviously is using his religion for politics. I think Ron is probably a Green but maybe more anti-Democrat than anti-Republican.
Ron's probably nearing his late 40's and during all those years, that's all he could come up with to eulogize his dad! Puleezzeee.....
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