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White couple with Chinese toddler kicked off plane
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Friday, June 11, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/11/2004 12:28:42 PM PDT by Willie Green

ERIE — A white couple and their adopted daughter were ordered off an airplane because police were concerned they had abducted the Chinese toddler.

Richard and Ruth Feiock, of Tallahassee, Fla., said the actions of police were bigoted and that they may file a civil lawsuit against Erie International Airport.

“It was a very racist thing to do, ordering us off of the plane,” said Richard Feiock, a political science professor at Florida State University. The family was in Erie on Tuesday night to see an older daughter graduate from Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy.

Two people aboard the Delta flight became concerned when the Feiock´s 2-year-old daughter began crying incessantly as the airplane sat on the tarmac, police said.

Race was not a consideration when the couple were asked to get off the plane, said David Bagnoni, director of public safety and chief of police at Erie International.

“The baby was screaming, ‘Mommy, Mommy, Mommy,´ and fussing, trying to get out of the hands of the woman holding her,” he said....

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To: Age of Reason
Why do people have to go overseas to adopt a baby? Don't we have American kids who need to be adopted--or is there something wrong with orphaned American kids?

There are about 100 couples in line to adopt a single healthy white infant. Most young pregnant unmarried women abort their babies. Many white couples don't want to adopt a black or mixed-race baby. Children who are taken away from their neglectful parents are usually not released for adoption for years, if ever, and when they are released, they can be mentally / emotionally very difficult to deal with for many couples.

121 posted on 06/11/2004 8:38:34 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: valkyrieanne
Many white couples don't want to adopt a black or mixed-race baby.

I don't care what color they are.

What matters to me is that they are American orphans, and American orphans should come first.

Children who are taken away from their neglectful parents are usually not released for adoption for years, if ever, and when they are released, they can be mentally / emotionally very difficult to deal with for many couples.

One of the things I find interesting about a lot of talk on this subject, is how adoption is being viewed from the perspective of what is difficult or easy for the parents.

I should think that what is best for the children should come first, and American children should come first of all.

122 posted on 06/11/2004 9:07:04 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

My friends did, and have spent years of heartache before learning they couldn't undo the damage already done. My wife & I didn't care about color or physical ailment - but we wouldn't take a chance on bringing a sexually abused older child in with a younger one. We also found it discouraging to find we could spend thousands of dollars and then have to start at square one because we had moved (and the military doesn't ask if I want to go - I'm in Korea now, and not by choice). A number of states also would not allow us to adopt at 45...while some foriegn countries will.

Bottom line for me - a child is a child, whether from Russia or the US. But I'm not heroic enough to adopt an abused 7-8 year old kid. That is asking for enormous pain with no relief in sight. And I wouldn't want to adopt & then have the courts change their mind 5 years later.


123 posted on 06/11/2004 11:03:09 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: bd476

On the "coast-to-coast" radio show thay had a guy on a few weeks ago that claimed he had been in a type of "interpol" for kiddie abduction - usually related to pornography.

They would kill the guys in whatever country they found him. They would leave some of the "evidence" photos of the pervert with the kids (even babies) for the investigating local police to find. The local police would then treat it as a robbery gone bad, etc.


124 posted on 06/11/2004 11:12:41 PM PDT by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: dmz
"You go through a lot of tin foil in your house, doncha? "

Only when I line the grill to cook PETA's chicken, beef and ham friends.
125 posted on 06/12/2004 12:13:32 AM PDT by FrankR (Americans don't know how to NOT BE FREE.)
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To: Age of Reason
I agree that "American children should come first." But adoption is a matter of individual parents' individual choices. I agree that race shouldn't matter; if there's a line 100 long ahead of you for a white baby, and there are multiple mixed-race babies available, then hopefully people would chose a baby who didn't "look like them." However, most people don't.

Missouri has tried to remedy this somewhat. We have a state income tax credit for offsetting the costs of adoption. Then the state discovered that 90% of the parents claiming the state tax credit were using it for overseas adoptions, and the state has been trying to get that stopped. It was an unforeseen loophole in the old law.

126 posted on 06/12/2004 7:42:01 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: valkyrieanne

For some people, the social consequences in their immediate neighborhood,etc. aren't worth it. Even if it's a mixed race baby, people can't mind their own business to save their life.


127 posted on 06/12/2004 7:54:11 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: mlmr

She should have left him with the cops. I doubt he would have done it again.


128 posted on 06/12/2004 7:56:04 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Politicalmom

LOL you sound like my mom


129 posted on 06/12/2004 7:57:59 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: valkyrieanne

I think you are wrong. Racist adoption officials don't ALLOW white parents to adopt babies of other races.


130 posted on 06/12/2004 7:58:48 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Age of Reason
Don't we have American kids who need to be adopted--or is there something wrong with
orphaned American kids?


Post #23 covers a lot of the territory.

For the American kids...there is nothing wrong with them.
The problems are mostly adult. Such as the social workers pushing same-race adoptions.

Before it went out of circulation, the weekly NewTimesLA had a long article about a
white, church-going couple who were subjected to some pretty nasty crap by
"civil servants" when they adopted an black American child.
These hyper-tolerant bureaucrats seem to think that cross-race (or cross-cultural) adoption
is some sort of white-man's plan for racial/cultural genocide for "people of color".

As for these idealogues, it's not "all about the children", it's "all about the race".
131 posted on 06/12/2004 8:04:04 AM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA; Politicalmom

Social workers are reaping the whirlwind for the reasons that both of you state.


132 posted on 06/12/2004 8:19:46 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Willie Green; katnip; FormerLib; Grace9; RussianConservative

I remember vividly my adopted daughter Irina screaming on the Aeroflot flight from Russia. The Russian flight attendants finally knocked her out with benadryl.


133 posted on 06/12/2004 8:30:37 AM PDT by MarMema (Up, up, up, there's nowhere to go from here but up.)
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To: Dante3
Unfortunately many of us are repeatedly turned down to adopt in this country, because, they told us, the children are too damaged. We had a four year old birthchild when we began seeking to adopt.

We would have been all too happy to adopt from the US. But it was Russia that let us adopt, three times, from them.

134 posted on 06/12/2004 8:32:32 AM PDT by MarMema (Up, up, up, there's nowhere to go from here but up.)
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To: keilimon
We could adopt an older child, but most of these poor kids are warehoused and drugged, and frankly we were not up for that challenge - perhaps in the future we will be.

We were even willing to adopt an older child. We had a four year old child at the time. The US told us there were no children younger available, we could not adopt a black or child of another race, and the older children were all too damaged and would/could harm our birthson.

So then we adopted an older child from Russia. Age six. And went on to adopt two more, 2 and 3 when they came home.

135 posted on 06/12/2004 8:37:20 AM PDT by MarMema (Up, up, up, there's nowhere to go from here but up.)
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To: bmwcyle
...when the Feiock´s 2-year-old daughter began crying incessantly as the airplane sat on the tarmac, police said.

New parents need to stay home until their child is better behaved. Someone might think they kidnapped the little nipper if she's oriental, they're occidentals, and she's screaming her little head off!

Sue the airline indeed!

136 posted on 06/12/2004 8:38:15 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: lsucat
I will never apologize for adopting my kids from overseas.

Thank you. I am grateful to Russia for allowing us to add three of her children to our family. The US did not grant us that privilege.

137 posted on 06/12/2004 8:39:28 AM PDT by MarMema (Up, up, up, there's nowhere to go from here but up.)
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To: MarMema

I'm glad that those children now have a happy home with wonderful christian parents. I remember documentaries about the orphanages in Eastern Europe. If I didn't know friends from there, I'd not believe it.


138 posted on 06/12/2004 8:39:49 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: scripter
Lots of love and time will help remove the baggage...

Yes it will but when you get to the teen years, be prepared for a return to the worst. I have one age 15 and another just about 13 and it is truly a time when adopted children are battling old demons. ( the last adopted child is only 10 and the other is a birthchild).

139 posted on 06/12/2004 8:42:48 AM PDT by MarMema (Up, up, up, there's nowhere to go from here but up.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
Also, if you are a gunowner, you can forget about adoption...unless you want to be disarmed.

We used a Christian agency for our homestudies and post placements. New Hope. A wonderful place, division of Crista.

140 posted on 06/12/2004 8:44:39 AM PDT by MarMema (Up, up, up, there's nowhere to go from here but up.)
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