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Reagan Mourned in Former 'Evil Empire'
The Moscow Times ^ | Monday, June 7, 2004. | Vladimir Isachenkov and Jim Heintz

Posted on 06/10/2004 9:29:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Monday, June 7, 2004. Page 1.

Reagan Mourned in Former 'Evil Empire'By Vladimir Isachenkov and Jim Heintz
The Associated Press


AP

Reagan and Gorbachev saying farewell after talks in Reykjavik, Iceland, in 1986.

He stunned the Soviet Union with his tough rhetoric, calling it an "evil empire" whose leaders gave themselves the "right to commit any crime." His famed "Star Wars" program drew the Soviets into a costly arms race they couldn't afford. His 1987 declaration to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev at the Berlin Wall -- "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" -- was the ultimate challenge of the Cold War.

Ronald Reagan's determination to destroy communism and the Soviet Union was a hallmark of his eight-year presidency, carried out through a harsh nuclear policy toward Moscow that softened only slightly when Gorbachev came to office.

Reagan, who died Saturday at the age of 93, is vividly remembered in Russia today as the force that precipitated the Soviet collapse.

"Reagan bolstered the U.S. military might to ruin the Soviet economy, and he achieved his goal," said Gennady Gerasimov, who served as top spokesman for the Soviet Foreign Ministry during the 1980s.

Reagan's agenda toward Moscow started shortly after the start of his first term -- and marked a major departure from the mild detente of the Jimmy Carter administration.

In 1981, Reagan backed his rhetoric with a trillion dollar defense buildup. U.S.-Soviet arms control talks collapsed, and the two nations targeted intermediate-range nuclear missiles at each other across the Iron Curtain in Europe.

The deployment of the U.S. missiles in Europe rattled the Kremlin's nerves, because of the shorter time they needed to reach targets in the Soviet Union compared to intercontinental missiles deployed in the United States.

In an even bigger shock to the Kremlin, Reagan in 1983 launched an effort to build a shield against intercontinental ballistic missiles involving space-based weapons.

The Strategic Defense Initiative, or SDI, dubbed "Star Wars," dumped the previous doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction that assumed that neither side would start a nuclear war because it would not be able to avoid imminent destruction.

Even though Reagan's "Star Wars" never led to the deployment of an actual missile shield, it drew the Soviets into a costly effort to mount a response. Many analysts agree that the race drained Soviet coffers and triggered the economic difficulties that sped up the Soviet collapse in 1991.

"Reagan's SDI was a very successful blackmail," Gerasimov said in an interview. "The Soviet Union tried to keep up pace with the U.S. military buildup, but the Soviet economy couldn't endure such competition."

Gorbachev said Sunday he was distressed by Reagan's death.

"I take very hard the death of Ronald Reagan, a man whom by fate sat with me in perhaps the most difficult years at the end of the 20th century," Gorbachev told reporters at the Gorbachev Foundation, a non-governmental analytical institute that he has run since 1992.

Despite Reagan's often-forceful statements against the Soviet Union, Gorbachev said he also had a personal warmth that bolstered their relations. "In terms of human qualities, he and I had, you would say, communicativeness, and this helped us carry on normally," Gorbachev said.

"But when you talk about friendly relations in politics, it's not the friendship of schoolmates, of the Arbat," he said.

"I deem Ronald Reagan a great president, with whom the Soviet leadership was able to launch a very difficult but important dialogue," Gorbachev said earlier Sunday on Ekho Moskvy radio, Interfax reported.

Gorbachev was quoted as calling Reagan "a statesman who, despite all disagreements that existed between our countries at the time, displayed foresight and determination to meet our proposals halfway and change our relations for the better."

Gorbachev listed Reagan's accomplishments as helping to "stop the nuclear race, start scrapping nuclear weapons, and arrange normal relations between our countries."

"I do not know how other statesmen would have acted at that moment, because the situation was too difficult. Reagan, whom many considered extremely rightist, dared to make these steps, and this is his most important deed," he was quoted as saying.

Yelena Bonner, the widow of Soviet dissident Nobel Peace Prize winner Andrei Sakharov, praised Reagan for his tough course toward the Soviet Union.

"I consider Ronald Reagan one of the greatest U.S. presidents since the World War II because of his staunch resistance to communism and his efforts to defend human rights," Bonner said in a telephone interview from her home in Boston. "Reagan's policy was consistent and precise, and he had a great talent of choosing the right people for his administration." Former Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky, 61, remembered Reagan fondly for his humor and his toughness. "His phrase, 'evil empire,' became a household word in Russia," said Bukovsky, who now lives in Cambridge, England. "Russians like a straightforward person, be he enemy or friend. They despise a wishy-washy person."

Retired General Vladimir Dvorkin said that trying to field a response to Reagan's Star Wars had "certainly contributed" to the Soviet economic demise but argued it didn't play the decisive role.

"The Soviet economy was extremely inefficient and nothing could save it," said Dvorkin, a senior Soviet arms control negotiator during the 1980s.

But Bonner said her husband -- who had played a key role in designing Soviet nuclear weapons -- believed that deploying U.S. missiles in Europe was necessary to bring the Soviet rulers back to the arms control talks. In December 1987, Reagan and Gorbachev signed a treaty that for the first time eliminated the entire class of intermediate-range missiles.

"Reagan and Gorbachev helped end the Cold War," Gerasimov said.

Associated Press writer Gerald Nadler in New York contributed to this report.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldwar; gorbachev; reagan; ronaldreagan; russia
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1 posted on 06/10/2004 9:29:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

when will the lefties learn that socialism and communism are prisons to those that love freedom.

the truely opressed get it, while comfortable american lefties dont


2 posted on 06/10/2004 9:34:30 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I never did hear about the Nobel Peace Prize that Ronald Reagan (at least should have) won. He saved the lives of and granted freedom to hundreds of millions of people (no exaggeration). How could he have been denied?


3 posted on 06/10/2004 9:34:59 PM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: dufekin
You are right.

The Nobel Peace Prize really lacks stature, IMHO.

4 posted on 06/10/2004 9:36:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Heh heh heh, yep Gorby helped end the cold war the same way a football helps kick itself through the uprights.

Thanks Gorby. Mr. President, have you ever heard such nonsense?


5 posted on 06/10/2004 9:36:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: dufekin

Nobel, Schmobel . . . they gave that thing to Arafat, it ain't worth shit now.


6 posted on 06/10/2004 9:37:20 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I remember something about some starwars "golden pebbles" or something program, of The Gipper's, that drove the Soviets nuts. I enjoyed them saying it in a Russian accent as their talking heads fulminated. Even if the whole program was ludicrous, the fact that the Soviets thought it might not be - was enough. Maybe it was all yet another brilliant disinformation campaign.
7 posted on 06/10/2004 9:37:32 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

it was no joke. NMD is the present day progression of starwars


8 posted on 06/10/2004 9:39:57 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: dufekin
I never did hear about the Nobel Peace Prize that Ronald Reagan (at least should have) won. He saved the lives of and granted freedom to hundreds of millions of people (no exaggeration). How could he have been denied?

The NPP being granted to Arafat, Carter, et al, should answer that question...

9 posted on 06/10/2004 9:41:19 PM PDT by JDoutrider (In God We Trust...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I find it amazing you can now get more objective reporting about our own President from the Moscow Times than the American press. It shows how significantly Reagan's Presidency changed the entire course of humanity.


10 posted on 06/10/2004 9:43:04 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Torie
That was Brilliant pebbles. I think that morphed into Low Earth Orbit Satellites which is on the slow road.
11 posted on 06/10/2004 9:44:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks. I was thinking after my post that maybe "shining pebbles" was closer to the actual name, so I was homing into accuracy, albeit slowly. :)


12 posted on 06/10/2004 9:47:16 PM PDT by Torie
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To: dufekin

The Norwegian Nobel Committee socialists are much like the French and American socialists, they give the Peace prize to people like Yassar Arafat because they don't want to let evil socialist/communist policies to be seen as evil.


13 posted on 06/10/2004 9:52:48 PM PDT by Stagerite
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Michael Blayhost?sp (a professor at John Hopkins) is just saying to a radio talkshow host about how Ronald Reagan's funeral is like that of a Roman Emperor that "symbolizes sacred figures" and that Reagan has become some kind of Diety - he thinks that even Chris Mathews is gushing too much. This professor goes on to say how the Roman's fell and how alike we are to them. He continues with how the problem with Empires are the need to galvanize people to do things a country we shouldn't do (I guess the Iraqi war). How much we are dependent on the big eagle <---the president, and how weak we are as a country. Then he goes on to talk about the Iran-contra and demonizes Ronald Reagan big time. Guess who he wants to fall?! and he teaches our kids!!! No wonder there's disunity in this country - we got the so-called pessimistic elitists like this dude speaking from his tenured glass tower and then there's the rest of us working slobs who continue to stay focussed and optimistic.


14 posted on 06/10/2004 9:56:24 PM PDT by chase19
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When Gorbechev went to the viewing, he leaned over the casket and said something to President Reagan. I wish I knew what he said.


15 posted on 06/10/2004 10:00:40 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: chase19
A tenuous and tendentious and superficial, and therefore, quite silly, analogy, in so many ways. For starters, the US spends about 3% of its GNP on "empire building" (I am just being polite in buying into the empire thingie, which in and of itself is also superficial, and a provocative word used in lieu of thought) - Rome spent maybe 50%, and much of that was financed by plunder. I won't go on.
16 posted on 06/10/2004 10:01:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: microgood; Stillwaters
I find it amazing you can now get more objective reporting about our own President from the Moscow Times than the American press. It shows how significantly Reagan's Presidency changed the entire course of humanity.

Ping

17 posted on 06/10/2004 10:01:55 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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18 posted on 06/10/2004 10:03:01 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: Stagerite

Was watching Chris Matthews this evening, and he said to one guest that Regan's popularity stopped at our borders.

Honest to God, I pitty someone that stupid.

Nicaragua, El Salvador, Poland & the Eastern Block, Russians, former Russians states who left the U.S.S.R., yep Chris quit school in the fourth grade.


19 posted on 06/10/2004 10:03:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: TheOtherOne

Nobel, Schmobel . . . they gave that thing to Arafat, it ain't worth shit now.


LOL - how right you are - kinda like the French "oscar" - they gave it to Michael Moore, cos they hate us so much, for that reason it's worth shit - not only to Michael Moore - but anyone else ever again.


20 posted on 06/10/2004 10:03:51 PM PDT by chase19
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