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To: WestCoastGal; Domestic Church; liberallyconservative; JustPiper
"Made me wonder why they want to belong to that group which appears on it's face as being the opposite of what islam is. "

Earlier on this thread I publicly renounced all the precepts of freemasonry as being ungodly. I am (was) a Master Mason and my wife was a member of The Order of the Eastern Star. One of the reasons I stopped attending my Lodge is the sudden influx right after 911 of middle easterners into the membership rolls. All that is required to join the Blue Lodge (lowest level of masonry) is a belief in a higher power. Allah is perfectly acceptable. Remember that Allah is just not another name for god. Allah is the name of another god. Islam is at the root of the highest levels of Free Masonry, the Shriners. How is that possible? See they give the equivalent of a MILLION DOLLARS a day to charity! They wear those funny little fezzes (red caps with a tassle) and drive funny little cars in those big parades.

I'm going to quote from a christian book: "Fast Facts on False Teachings" by Ron Carlson and Ed Decker, QUOTE BEGINS:

"The Fez itself is an example of the double meaning behind most of freemasonry's facade. Worn by every Shriner and even carried to the grave with pompous dignity, the history of the fez is both barbaric and anti-Christian. In the early eighth century, Muslim hordes overran the Moroccan city of Fez shouting 'There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet.' There they butchered the Christian community. These men women and children were slain because of their belief in Christ, all in the name of Allah, the same demon god to whom every shriner must bow in worship, with hands tied behind his back, proclaiming him the god of his fathers in the Shrine of initiation, at the altar of Obligation.

During the butchering of the people of Fez, the streets literally ran red with the blood of the martyred Christians. The Muslim murderers dipped their caps in the blood of their victims as a testimony to Allah. These bloodstained caps eventually were called fezzes and became a badge of honor for those who killed a Christian. The Shriners wear wear the same red fez today, with the islamic sword and crescent encrusted with jewels on the front." UNQUOTE

If you have ever seen the emblem on a Shriners car, it is the Muslim Sword called a SCIMITAR and a star above it. I don't understand how a professing Christian can take and hold the blood oaths that they do....but then I did the same thing, until I was led by the Lord to study and research (I found the above quoted book as part of my research) and discovered I had allied myself (as has my Father-in-Law as a 32nd Level Mason) with the very root of all evil.

1,145 posted on 06/15/2004 8:50:03 AM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier; KylaStarr; StillProud2BeFree; Calpernia; Cindy; All
Thank you for that information, extremely interesting and makes me wonder even more what is up in the lodge. Does this group give them another cover while plotting here in the US?

Kyla did save the following article which we discussed at length when the Flash Airlines plane crashed.........here it is. The link is gone, so I'm not posting that. (sorry it's a bit long but still a mystery as to what really happened, plus is relevant to the Mason theory)


His life was rooted in parallel worlds, and friends say Ashraf Abdelhamid traveled through each with equal parts savvy, style and mystery.

Last weekend, Abdelhamid, 42, was apparently in the cockpit of a chartered Boeing 737 that crashed nose first into the Red Sea. He and 147 others, mostly French tourists, were killed instantly.

The son of an Egyptian diplomat who made his home in Pacific Beach, Palm Springs, Cairo and sometimes England, Abdelhamid was a devoted Muslim and an astute San Diego businessman.

He was a dual citizen of Egypt and the United States, a committed husband and a one-time fighter pilot. He also was a Freemason, an intelligence officer for the National Guard, a security expert and a government-trained cavalry scout, depending on the circumstances.

News of his death has been circulating all week among San Diego pilots, business owners, Freemasons and other acquaintances, who described separate pieces of a complicated, enigmatic existence.

Abdelhamid's wife of 11 years, Madeline Witney of Palm Springs, heard about the crash on the news as she was driving to work Sunday and immediately began worrying that her husband was somehow involved. Later that day, it was all but confirmed.

"He was the sort of man who could hold court," she recalled. "If there were two people in a room, he could hold their attention; if there were 2,000 people, he could hold their attention."

Witney met Abdelhamid in San Diego in 1990. He was an Egyptian- born, divorced father of two girls, and she was a transplant from England. They married two years later.

"He was just dynamic, extremely intelligent," Witney said.

But even Witney admits there were gaps in what she knew about Abdelhamid. He was interested in many things and involved in endeavors of all kinds. There were long stretches of time spent apart.

She last saw her husband in September in London, where he caught a plane bound for Cairo and she was flying to San Diego. She spoke to him New Year's Eve and was counting the days until his return. He was due to arrive at Lindbergh Field yesterday.

An accomplished pilot who flew jets for the Egyptian air force when he was in his 20s, Abdelhamid was in Cairo to finish his commercial aviation training, his wife said.

His family owns Flash Airlines, the charter service shuttling tourists to Paris at the time of the crash, she said. The couple were talking about where they would live once he earned his license to fly large passenger jets.

No one from Flash Airlines could be reached for comment. The company did not return phone, e-mail and faxed messages. Investigators ruled out terrorist attack and pilot error as causes of the accident and instead are pointing to mechanical failure.

Friends say Abdelhamid was keenly interested in subjects and events the world over. He owned two businesses in San Diego, a janitorial service and a company that cleaned construction sites, they said. He worked on a master's degree in his spare time.

"We did a lot of talking about history, the ways of the world, general philosophy," said Fred Kleyn, a retired Navy officer from Spring Valley who knew Abdelhamid through San Diego Masonic Lodge No. 35.

"He was one of those guys that wears their clothes out from the inside," Kleyn said. "He was always in motion, always on the go, doing, thinking, very animated."

Abdelhamid worked part time as a security guard for the San Diego Convention Center between 1997 and 1999, and held current firearms, baton and guard permits from the state Bureau of Security and Investigative Services.

He also had a foreign-based transport plane pilot's license, although one friend said he lost his job as a cargo pilot after the September 2001 terrorist attacks because of his ethnicity. U.S. government officials interviewed him after those attacks.

"He was a Muslim and he flew planes, so yeah, he had a tough time," said Paul McMullen, a longtime friend who met Abdelhamid when the latter owned a security company that did work for one of McMullen's former employers, the San Diego County Sheriff's Department.

"He made enough money in his business practices to pursue hobbies like you and I might pursue a career," said McMullen, who last saw Abdelhamid in August. "He went after things that most people never really pursued."
1,150 posted on 06/15/2004 9:10:58 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Better stand tall when they're calling you out ~ Don't bend ,don't break, baby, don't back down ~)
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To: ExSoldier

Interesting. I have never heard of any of that.


1,355 posted on 06/15/2004 8:43:48 PM PDT by Selene
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