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Turkey waste turned into oil
Newsday.com ^ | DAN FAGIN

Posted on 06/09/2004 11:39:14 AM PDT by ckilmer

CARTHAGE, Mo. -- A Long Island entrepeneur's dream of building hundreds of garbage- to-oil factories is inching closer to reality, as a prototype plant in this rural town has begun selling more than 100 gallons of fuel oil per day made from scraps of slaughtered turkeys.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brianappel; changingworld; depolymerization; energy; environment; thermalconversion
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To: AntiGuv
the problem is that they are lead by a list of investors that looks like the pentagon, the first Reagan White House and dozens of other deep pocket people. This story is half the story of what they have done to turn garbage into electricty or oil.

The biggest problem in the telling of this companies' story is that it proves that oil is not always made from fossil based products. It is unlikely that reporters will ever connect the dots.

81 posted on 06/09/2004 1:34:53 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: ckilmer
It would seem that major Cities and Counties would benefit tremendously from this type of technology. If nothing else, they could establish such a plant just for the purpose of producing fuel for their fleets. I wonder though, if they did so, what would it further cost to refine the fuel, so that they could use it? Also, the Governments establishing these ventures would have to possess spines of steel, because if this starts becoming feasible, nothing would stop the oil producers from drastically lowering the price of a barrel of oil. And once that happened, they would face criticism of having expensive oil producing systems when oil is so "cheap."

Regardless, it is time to start such ventures.

82 posted on 06/09/2004 1:42:21 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: RS

Payoff on the order of synfuels or solar panels...


83 posted on 06/09/2004 1:43:15 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: ckilmer
So when my truck burns gas made from this stuff, it's at risk for mad truck disease? Not sure I like that at all . .

////////// No that's not right. the process by which animal wastes are converted to oil is a process which immitates in real time the process by which oil was made from dinasaurs and cretaceus plants. all these plant and animals are based on long carbon chains that millions of years of heat and pressure have converted to short carbon chains or oil. "Changing world technologies" industrial plant employs a process called thermal depolymerization which creates enormous heat and pressure and breaks up long carbon chains into short carbon chains or oil. that heat and pressure also kills the mad cow virus

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Well, that's good to know. I was really worried there for a while!

84 posted on 06/09/2004 1:43:54 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ckilmer

WKRP reference...


85 posted on 06/09/2004 1:44:13 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: lafroste

I have a process which turns beans into natural gas...


86 posted on 06/09/2004 1:46:52 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: RS

What I'm wondering is what the capacity of the plant is, and did it cost actually 31 million to build, or are R&D costs also included?

From what I've read in the past, it certainly seems like a viable process.

Brand new technology is always expensive, and I expect the cost to go down, as more of these come online.


87 posted on 06/09/2004 1:47:24 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: Gritty
I think the article has a mistake. Should the output read 100 barrels instead of 100 gallons!!??

I suspect the mistake may be a couple of zeros. At $40 per barrel, this would be $4,000 per day GROSS. Costs of production not yet deducted. A $31 million dollar plant is a big investment for a gross revenue of $4,000 per day. At 5% interest, $31 million would earn you $4,305 NET per day.

Not so sure how this is paying for itself. Maybe costs will come down as they put up more plants. Or they are banking on future oil price increases.

88 posted on 06/09/2004 1:49:46 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Enterprise
I wonder though, if they did so, what would it further cost to refine the fuel, so that they could use it?

The oil produced would be refined just the same as crude oil OPEC produces. I beleive it would run cleaner, though, which would be a nice enviornmental benefit as well.

89 posted on 06/09/2004 1:51:41 PM PDT by kevkrom (Reagan lives on... as long as we stay true to his legacy)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
You act as though because you disagree with the laws and regulations

Don't read extraneous stuff into this. Utilities may be privately owned only under tightly regulated circumstances.

90 posted on 06/09/2004 1:54:38 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: ModelBreaker
Not so sure how this is paying for itself.

Cost of waste transport and storage are being completely removed from the plant's expense column.

91 posted on 06/09/2004 1:57:46 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: EggsAckley
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could FLY!"

Wild ones can.

92 posted on 06/09/2004 1:58:53 PM PDT by Terriergal (Ps27:5 "For in the day of trouble he will keep me safe in His dwelling;")
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To: kevkrom

What I meant to ask, is that after it is produced, who would refine it, and how much would they charge? I am assuming that the plants producing the oil would not be the ones refining it.


93 posted on 06/09/2004 2:01:03 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: monday

No, that isn't the peak oil thesis anyway. We're running out of cheap oil. Another name for peak oil is peak easy.


94 posted on 06/09/2004 2:02:55 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: RightWhale
How many turkeys per day would it take to replace all imported oil?

When we run out of turkeys, we can use Michael Moore.

95 posted on 06/09/2004 2:05:24 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Enterprise

The oil produced is light sweet crude and can be used as is in the power plant in Carthage, from what I understand.


96 posted on 06/09/2004 2:05:56 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Ok. That's a good explanation, thanks.


97 posted on 06/09/2004 2:08:22 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Freebird Forever

After one tank of that the oil filter would be clogged and the spark plugs would be fouled. The vehicle wouldn't pass emissions anyway.


98 posted on 06/09/2004 2:09:35 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Enterprise
who would refine it, and how much would they charge?

Not sure and don't know. My only point was that the oil produced could be used exactly the same as imported crude -- I know (much) more about the technology involved than I do about the oil business.

99 posted on 06/09/2004 2:11:31 PM PDT by kevkrom (Reagan lives on... as long as we stay true to his legacy)
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To: q_an_a

The first time this process was posted here, it was Tyson Foods setting up a pilot plant at one of their chicken processing facilities. Also, the city of Philadelphia was going to install one at their solid waste dump. If I remember correctly, the article was titled "Oil From Anything".

If we told the jihadists that we didn't want any of their oil, but instead we were there to harvest their bodies to make into oil, I think they'd change their tune faster than you can say "fill 'er up".


100 posted on 06/09/2004 2:18:17 PM PDT by datura (Battlefield justice is what our enemies deserve. If you win, you live. If you lose, you die.)
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