Posted on 06/09/2004 11:39:14 AM PDT by ckilmer
CARTHAGE, Mo. -- A Long Island entrepeneur's dream of building hundreds of garbage- to-oil factories is inching closer to reality, as a prototype plant in this rural town has begun selling more than 100 gallons of fuel oil per day made from scraps of slaughtered turkeys.
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Probably not enough since you have to build the plants and transport the materials and that would take more investment capital than there is. At the same time the plants are buing built, note, the cost of building the plants will increase and continue to increase rapidly due to the increasing cost of energy. This could have been done starting 30 years ago. It cannot be done now, it's too late.
A $30 million plant to produce 100 barrels a day doesn't sound like a good business decision.
So when my truck burns gas made from this stuff, it's at risk for mad truck disease? Not sure I like that at all . .
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No that's not right. the process by which animal wastes are converted to oil is a process which immitates in real time the process by which oil was made from dinasaurs and cretaceus plants. all these plant and animals are based on long carbon chains that millions of years of heat and pressure have converted to short carbon chains or oil. "Changing world technologies" industrial plant employs a process called thermal depolymerization which creates enormous heat and pressure and breaks up long carbon chains into short carbon chains or oil. that heat and pressure also kills the mad cow virus
Doing the math off of post 15, 100MM mTons works out to 300MM bbls. of oil, or about 1 months annual consumption for the entire world.
Not bad. Not to mention the gross revenue from 300MM barrels of oil being sold, and the small fee for processing the waste products...
What about a $30 million dollar plant to dispose of 200 tons of waste a day, not counting any sellable product?
hehe.. I am usually the pessimist in most threads. I'm just pleased to be an optimist in this one. =)
The gap between "not enough" and enough will be met via other innovations as necessary in my view. We shall see.
I can't find any drawback in this particular technology and it certainly sounds as if it would 'pay for itself' once economy of scale kicks in.
Don't worry, be happy!
THIS process is amazing. You should read more about it. It is FREAKING AMAZING.
That sounds excellent! Thanks for doing the math!
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you mean pigs don't you?
No, probably turkeys, from an ancient episode of WKRP. I think said turkeys were thrown from a window and ... well, failed to fly.
I discovered that Con-Agra, Inc. holds a majority "ownership" in CWT. They have put up most of the financing for the model plants, due to their high interest in disposing of agricultural waste.
I'm waiting for the spin-off--the ratios and performance numbers for Con-Agra are'nt that hot.
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con agra has controlling interest in the company set up to run the plant that processes con agra turkey offals in missouri but con agra doesn't have a controlling interest in "changing world technologies"
A community might build a waste treatment plant for that. As an investment in community health it is a good thing. As a private business investment it would have no intrinsic value outside of a contract with the municipality.
Oh, and let's keep in mind that factoring in the rest of the world we're talking about far, far more than 100 million metric tons of biomass waste produced annually. We're talking something way up in the billions.
The episode ended as Mr. Carlson returns to the station and says to Andy, "As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."
Orbiting power satellites is still the way to go, although that, too, is probably too late. We could have done it 30 years ago, now we can't.
So the Butterball plant doesn't need to pay for the transport and storage of their waste product? Wow. Did not know that.
Better call down to Carthage and tell them that the money they are saving from not having to transport and store all that turkey offal and turkey guts in addition to selling the city of Carthage fuel for the power plant and having fertilizer for their feed fields is just not worth it. I'll let them know RightWhale said so.
I found the figure. According to the EPA there are four billion metric tons of organic waste produced annually worldwide.
you mean pigs don't you?
No, probably turkeys, from an ancient episode of WKRP. I think said turkeys were thrown from a window and ... well, failed to fly.
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not sure I understand. wild turkeys can fly short distances--though they prefer to walk.
domesticated turkeys on large turkey farms are generally penned up. on small farms domesticated free range turkeys prefer to rooste in trees and such... which takes a short flight.
Sounds like just another way of utilizing that all time breakfast favorite...SPAM
PETA is not amused.
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