Accenture Wins Nod As Prime Contractor For US-Visit

Informationweek.com ^ | 6/1/2004 | Eric Chabrow

[NormalGuy]

After that money is spent. will you be better off? Will this be like HIPAA which was a make-work project for us programmers, but which has been the single biggest reason for increased healthcare... and has not improved the health of even one person?

[ClintonBeGone]

Just because it's an immigration computer system, is there any reason why the taxpayer's should get the most value for their hard earned dollars?

[Poohbah]

$10 Billion US-Visit immigration Computer System Outsourced to Foreign Company (my title)

Accenture is an American company. They locate their corporate headquarters in Bermuda to lessen their tax burden. If they are HQ'd in America, they get to pay taxes on ALL of their income worldwide--we are the only country stupid enough to do this, BTW; companies with a headquarters maildrop outside the US only get taxed on their US income.

[jpsb]

"their corporate headquarters [is] in Bermuda "

Then they are NOT an American corporation.

[spintreebob]

Accenture is an American Company like the Mexican company that owns the cement mixers building our highways. I've work beside Accenture employees since before they were ANDERSON Consulting. . ... American?

This flushes out those who are consistent on the outsourcing-immigration issue from those who are selective in which immigration and which outsourcing they oppose.

[Poohbah]

Then they are NOT an American corporation.

Go whine at Congress. They're the ones who set up a tax code that punishes companies whose primary operations are in the US, but export a significant amount of goods and services overseas.

[Wolfie]

After that money is spent. will you be better off?

Not as long as the borders are open.

[VaBthang4]

Tedium...it's already been discussed ad nausiem. It is an American company who let up an office in the caribbean to avoid moronic taxes. Big deal.

[VaBthang4]

Grow up.

[spintreebob]

http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/bi/entrepreneur/archives/000880.asp

Outsourcing: No need to be a Pollyanna or Chicken Little When it comes to Outsourcing, there seems to be only two reactions : Polyanna or Chicken Little. Do not let the idiotic hype cycles make you one or the other.

Good commentary by 5/14/04 By Nari Kannan

[jpsb]

I say again, "Then they are NOT an American corporation". Whine all you like, but they are not an American corporation.

[Poohbah]

I say again, "Then they are NOT an American corporation". Whine all you like, but they are not an American corporation.

So having a maildrop in Bermuda means that the company isn't American, despite the vast majority of its operations (and ALL of its actual headquarters operations) being conducted in America?

[jpsb]

What a celever retort!

American corporations are headquartered in the US and pay US taxes. This corporation is not an American Corporation.

[jpsb]

Yup, if I change my citizenship to avoid taxes, which is what these offshore corporations do, am I still an American? Nope, I am no longer a US citizen, and nether is this corporation since it changed it's corporate citizenship.

[searchandrecovery]

Using this system, "visitors" will automatically be tracked - this will make it easier for the government to send them info on the welfare & healthcare benefits they are eligible for. When their visas expire, they will automatically be sent a months worth of food stamps, coupons for airline tickets to be used by their relatives to come to America (family re-unification), and a pregnancy test kit to detect any budding new U.S. citizens.

[Poohbah]

American corporations are headquartered in the US and pay US taxes

Accenture pays US taxes on its US operations (which are most of Accenture's operations).

FYI, corporations don't HAVE citizenship.

[jpsb]

Does the word analogy mean anything to you?

[neutrino]

Then they are NOT an American corporation.

Exactly. They're eager to belly up to the trough and eat their fill of our tax money, but they won't pay a penny for the U.S. Armed Services or for the governmental infrastructure that is part of the weave of the marketplace they wish to exploit.

That's right. They're too busy making money to contribute a dime to the medical care of our wounded veterans coming home from Iraq. And some dare call this an American Company? The words should be as bitter ashes in their mouths!

They're too good to pay any U.S. taxes - but they're happy to take a huge portion of the taxes you and I pay. Sadly, the deluded among us continue to cheer on behavior that would make Al Capone blush with shame.

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[detsaoT]

As an insider observing another contractor bidding for that contract, I can assure you that no matter who landed it, it would still have ended up being a disaster. The agency has no idea what they want the system to do, and much less an idea as to how to leverage the technology in the most efficient manner... This program was destined to be a boondoggle from day one.

[neutrino]

Accenture pays US taxes on its US operations (which are most of Accenture's operations).

And they would never, ever assign expenses from their headquarters operations such that tax liabilities and the US-based units would be minimized, right?

Can you say in Enron?