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Gore says Miami Mayor Penelas betrayed Democrats [Sore-Loserman Update]
Miami Herald ^ | 6/5/04

Posted on 06/06/2004 5:13:09 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

Gore says Miami Mayor Penelas betrayed Democrats

Former Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore delivered a harsh message to Miami-Dade County Mayor Alex Penelas, three months before he faces a U.S. Senate primary.

BY BETH REINHARD

breinhard@herald.com

Former Vice President Al Gore, who lost the 2000 presidential election by 537 votes in Florida, on Saturday called Miami-Dade County Mayor Alex Penelas ``the single most treacherous and dishonest person I dealt with during the campaign anywhere in America.''

The statement was e-mailed by a Gore spokesman in response to a Herald inquiry about Penelas's role in the 2000 campaign. Gore supporters say the vice president had counted on Penelas for a late boost in the Hispanic community, and the mayor did not come through.

The harsh remarks come just three months before Penelas faces a Democratic primary election for the U.S. Senate. Gore's reproach could seriously damage the mayor's bid to succeed Sen. Bob Graham, since party loyalists tend to dominate turnout in a primary.

In a telephone interview Saturday evening, Penelas defended himself, saying he was ``by Gore's side from the very beginning.''

''Al Gore has a right to be upset about the election, but had he won his home state of Tennessee or West Virginia, we wouldn't be here,'' Penelas said. ``He also owes an explanation as to why he waited until the middle of October to engage in Florida.''

He said Gore has declined to return his phone calls to discuss the 2000 campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at miami.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; miamidade; penelas
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To: Karyn M. PhD

No the Elian Gonzalez items are 100% compatable. It is you who are denying reality.


101 posted on 06/06/2004 9:27:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: beckett
If they do it's because Castro wants it that way.
102 posted on 06/06/2004 9:29:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Regan---all the rest.)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

No question about it. Gore is CRAZY.


103 posted on 06/06/2004 9:53:14 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Uncle Hal

I can't add a thing to your observation!


104 posted on 06/06/2004 9:54:53 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

I saw this article this morning in the Herald. Ironically it was on the front page where Reagan's death was the main story. Interesting contrast: Gore's bitterness and Reagan's sunny disposition. And I don't recall Reagan lashing out bitterly after he narrowly lost the nomination to Gerald Ford.


105 posted on 06/06/2004 10:02:40 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: Paradox
Maybe this is democrat strategy, this "anti-endorsement" by a liberal democrat like Gore is intended to actually REINFORCE Pinelas among the conservative Cubans down here.

Bad strategy. Most Cubans down here are registered Republicans and can't vote in the Democrat primary.

106 posted on 06/06/2004 10:05:01 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: beckett

IIRC, It was posted here by a Freeper that from a young age, until they are a lot older, ALL children are required to attend Cuban "school"......so they can learn "the ropes"....

...and for part of it, kids "learn" just from their "teachers",and are separated from the parents durring certain times in the Cuban school "learning experience".

...but gee...it's not like I've NEVER been wrong before


107 posted on 06/06/2004 10:15:39 AM PDT by musicman
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To: HighWheeler

Well, the TN Democrats (with "moderate" GOP help) elected a liberal governor in 2002 to do penance for defeating Gore in 2000.


108 posted on 06/06/2004 10:51:23 AM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: Wolverine

You can't make this stuff up, and God knows we need a good laugh just about now. Great picture. Funny and so true.


109 posted on 06/06/2004 11:03:29 AM PDT by hershey
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To: cripplecreek
The big tent is fast becomming a medium sized tarp.

LOL!...Good Line :))

110 posted on 06/06/2004 11:16:28 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: SunnySide

Yup. The first thing they did when they got into the WH was requisition FBI files and fire all the lawyers (and the WH travel office). They had to have a compliant attorney general because they planned to break any law they found inconvenient. Intimidation, threats, blackmail, lies, Bubba's sexual escapades, murder. Arkancide on the Potomac. Thank God they're gone. Gore can't get over having been screwed by Hill and Bill. He can't threaten the big fish, so he goes after small fry. He's such a loser.


111 posted on 06/06/2004 11:16:47 AM PDT by hershey
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To: MEG33

112 posted on 06/06/2004 11:28:32 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: FrankR
"The big tent is fast becomming a medium sized tarp."...Actually, they've cut up the "big tent" to make straight jackets for algore.

ROFPIMPLOL!!..changing underwear now.:))

113 posted on 06/06/2004 11:29:20 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: beckett

The Government of Cuba owns the home, they are assigned it. There is no private property in Cuba.


114 posted on 06/06/2004 11:54:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory; Radtechtravel
The Government of Cuba owns the home, they are assigned it. There is no private property in Cuba.

Nobody's arguing otherwise that I can see. The assertion was made that Elian does not live with his father. I have read several times, even recently, that he does. I asked the claimant to prove his assertion. He ignored me.

115 posted on 06/06/2004 12:11:18 PM PDT by beckett
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To: beckett

Of course he is also trotted out on Communist revolution holidays and parrots his little pro-revolution speeches. His father was given an new job and all have governement minders that keep them watched. Just peachy.


116 posted on 06/06/2004 12:15:13 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
I am not defending Castro's island prison. But when sloppy inaccuracies are brought to bear against a monster, his defenders are strengthened and his enemies weakened.

The moral of the story is: Always have your facts straight in debate. There have been a few other examples of sloppy assertions in this thread, but the claim that Elian does not live with his father was the most egregious.

117 posted on 06/06/2004 12:51:50 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Radtechtravel

To say that Elian was sent back to Cuba because of parental rights is a wretched joke perpetrated upon Elian, for in Cuba there are no parental rights. The communist State literaly owns all the children.




Would that apply to American mothers who have had middle eastern fathers kidnap their children and not return them.
America is a cesspool culture and the Saudi father and government know best how to raise children?

I don't know why people keep referring to "Little Havana" as America.Only the cousin has assismilated enough to bother learning english. They have nothing to do with Americans. Most have no education.
The father decided his son had a better future under Castro,
than growing up in a drug infested, crime infested ghetto.
He has that right.


118 posted on 06/06/2004 12:52:55 PM PDT by Bogey
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To: Bahbah
Former Vice President Al Gore, who lost the 2000 presidential election by 537 votes in Florida, on Saturday called Miami-Dade County Mayor Alex Penelas ``the single most treacherous and dishonest person I dealt with during the campaign anywhere in America.''
Probably practiced this line in front of a mirror ... to make it believable. ;-)

I don't watch much TV although I have 6 or more for some reason - I suspect it has something to do with our kids and my wife's Target card. But I digress ... Did 'ol Algore do this using his 'S'thrn Baptist Preacher act? Anyone?

119 posted on 06/06/2004 2:47:57 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Have a nice day or else!)
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To: Bogey
What dream world do you live in? To compare little Havana in Miami to the real thing in Cuba is like comparing Moscow to New York. One is definitely third world--Moscow the other is not. And to insinuate that Juan Gonzalez had any say what so ever in where Elian would live is to be super-naieve. Castro/Bubba called all the shots and still does. Buck up ace.
120 posted on 06/06/2004 2:49:59 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Regan---all the rest.)
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