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US soldiers could face war crimes charges
Reuters ^ | 6/05/04 | Robert Evans

Posted on 06/04/2004 6:03:02 PM PDT by kattracks

GENEVA (Reuters) - The United Nations' top human rights official says abuses by U.S. soldiers of Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison could amount to war crimes.

Acting High Commissioner for Human Rights Bertrand Ramcharan said on Friday U.S.-led occupation forces had committed "serious violations" of international humanitarian law in Iraq and had ill-treated ordinary Iraqis.

In a report for the world body's Human Rights Commission, Ramcharan, a British-trained barrister from Guyana and long-time U.N. official, also said coalition troops were able to act with impunity and urged the appointment of an independent figure to monitor their behaviour.

In a clear reference to the Abu Ghraib incidents, since when several U.S. male and female soldiers working there have been detained, Ramcharan said "wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment" of detainees was a grave breach of international law.

Such acts "might be designated as war crimes by a competent tribunal", he added.

The only U.S. soldier to face court martial so far for his role in the Abu Ghraib abuses was sent to jail for one year.

U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli declined to comment on whether U.S. soldiers may have committed war crimes at Abu Ghraib and said the United States believed its soldiers should be judged within the U.S. military justice system.

Ereli said reports that U.S. forces may have mistreated ordinary Iraqis were troubling and Washington would ask for more details.

The United States has refused to sign a 1998 treaty creating the world's first permanent global war crimes tribunal.

The United States was one of 135 nations to sign the treaty under former President Bill Clinton. But President George W. Bush's administration rescinded the signature, fearing the court could bring politically motivated or frivolous cases against U.S. troops serving on foreign soil.

The 45-page report cited one former Abu Ghraib detainee, Saddam Abood Al-Rawi, 29, as telling U.N. investigators he was subjected to 18 days of torture at the U.S.-run prison.

This included the pulling of teeth, kicking and beating and threats of rape, and warnings he would be killed if he told a visiting international Red Cross team about his treatment.

The report quoted Rawi as saying that he suffered physical torture when he was held at an Iraqi prison under ousted president Saddam Hussein. But under U.S.-led occupation forces, he was additionally subjected to "humiliation and mental cruelty".

CRITICISED AS "LIGHT"

"The serious violations of human rights and humanitarian law that have taken place (since U.S. and British troops invaded Iraq in March last year and ousted then President Saddam Hussein) must not be allowed to recur," the report said.

But the report, which asserted that "everyone accepts" that the U.S. and its allies intended their troops in Iraq to behave well, drew criticism from Reed Brody, special counsel to the U.S.-based Human Rights Watch organisation.

"It seems very light, and to bend over backwards to accept the good faith of the U.S.," he told Reuters by telephone. "I don't think it is the place of the U.N. human rights office to evaluate the intentions of a state or group of states."

Ramcharan's spokesman, Jose Luis Diaz, denied there had been any outside effort to have the report watered down. "There was no pressure on this office," he told Reuters.

Ramcharan suggested that among the more serious violations was the jailing of large numbers of Iraqis without anyone's knowledge and without any reasons being given.

His report, submitted to U.S. and British officials for comment on Wednesday, cited Iraqis interviewed in Amman as speaking of "arbitrary arrests and detention as an ongoing phenomenon" since the invasion.

The report said Saddam's removal was a major contribution to human rights in Iraq. His government "was a brutal, murderous, torturing gang that preyed on its own people".

"Everyone accepts the good intentions of the coalition governments as regards the behaviour of their forces in Iraq," Ramcharan said. Iraq could now be "on the road to democracy, the rule of law, and governance that is respectful of human rights".



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: LibWhacker
I wish somebody would drag Kofi out of his office and put Helen Thomas' underwear on his head so he'd understand exactly where the war crimes' line is.
Simpson's twinge shiver. [ If you can spell that, please do.]
41 posted on 06/04/2004 7:02:39 PM PDT by olde north church (compensation is a female canine)
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To: kattracks
You really know how to ferret out the stories that pull our chains.

Keep up the good work.

It is now your sworn obligation to post the story when it is discovered that Bertrand Ramcharan participated in the unfolding oil for food scandal.

42 posted on 06/04/2004 7:09:59 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: whadizit

Hoo-Yah!


43 posted on 06/04/2004 7:15:12 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: kattracks

i wanna seem them wimp ass sob's arrest an American. go ahead... make our day...


44 posted on 06/04/2004 7:33:25 PM PDT by go star go
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To: kattracks

What is 'unAmerican' Alex?

The United Nations is unAmerican.


45 posted on 06/04/2004 7:37:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks

John F'n Kerry=Rock and a Hard Place


46 posted on 06/04/2004 7:40:02 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: kattracks

Hot air. Ain't gonna happen. Just wishful thinking on the part of the Eurosnots and their American counterparts.

As Bush I said (according to Dana Carvey): NA-GA-DA!


47 posted on 06/04/2004 7:42:30 PM PDT by wimpycat ("The road to the promised land runs past Sinai."-C.S. Lewis)
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To: Servant of the 9
If John French Kerry wins in November, those troops are doomed.

Quite true...even though Kerry claimed he'd accept full responsibility for what happened.

I wouldn't mind seeing Kerry hung out to dry by his own mealy-mouthed U.N. "heroes."

48 posted on 06/04/2004 7:47:52 PM PDT by Prime Choice (John Kerry is a butthead! ...or worse, a used car salesman.)
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To: kattracks

Get the US out of the UN

49 posted on 06/04/2004 7:51:22 PM PDT by Militiaman7 (Fear not tomorrow, God is already there.)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
I wonder if the UN is equally enthusiastic about being prosecuted for the Oil for FUBAR scam.

Yes. Let's make sure the criminals involved in the oil for food scandal get prosecuted first.

Will there be anyone left to do the prosecuting for the UN after that's complete?

50 posted on 06/04/2004 7:56:15 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Howlin

What better way for Kofi to keep his son's oil-for-food fraud off the front pages?

I expect he will try to push this if the US government doesn't bury what it has been digging up on him...


51 posted on 06/04/2004 8:26:09 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: Mo1
The United States was one of 135 nations to sign the treaty under former President Bill Clinton. But President George W. Bush's administration rescinded the signature, fearing the court could bring politically motivated or frivolous cases against U.S. troops serving on foreign soil.

For this very reason. Up yours, Kofi!

52 posted on 06/04/2004 8:54:15 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Terrence Maculiffe-Ariolimax columbianus (hint- its a gastropod.....)
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To: kattracks

You wouldn't sanction us and you bugged out, F you and yours!


53 posted on 06/04/2004 9:14:16 PM PDT by Righty1
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To: cardinal4

Exactly


54 posted on 06/04/2004 9:15:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Militiaman7
Only UNamericans put the UN before America!
55 posted on 06/04/2004 9:36:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: aft_lizard
Oh Please UN give us any and all reasons to pull out of you and kick you off our soil.

Can't we give them a couple more punishing thrusts first, before we pull out of them?

56 posted on 06/04/2004 9:43:22 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (You make me feel warm all over. No...wait...I'm soaking in a puddle of my own urine.)
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To: kattracks

Kofi, PLEASE give us a reason to leave. PLEASE!!!


57 posted on 06/05/2004 2:55:17 AM PDT by Dimez Apart (Owens-Watts in 2008)
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To: Dimez Apart

Just a thought here....could we form a formal petition stating something like "We will protect the US Military personel from any group,country or organization, at all cost" ??


58 posted on 06/05/2004 2:59:35 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: kattracks
Un-uniformed combatants (terrorists) and classic bullshit artists. Most of them could have (should have) been shot on the spot in the field.

Get U.S. out of the U.N. now!

59 posted on 06/05/2004 3:11:36 AM PDT by metesky (You will be diverse, just like us.)
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To: kattracks

The United Nations is a continuing criminal enterprise. The building should be raided and seized under RICO, the diplomats deported, the lesser workers sentenced to community service and the property sold off to the highest bidder.


60 posted on 06/05/2004 5:13:12 AM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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