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US soldiers could face war crimes charges
Reuters ^ | 6/05/04 | Robert Evans

Posted on 06/04/2004 6:03:02 PM PDT by kattracks

GENEVA (Reuters) - The United Nations' top human rights official says abuses by U.S. soldiers of Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison could amount to war crimes.

Acting High Commissioner for Human Rights Bertrand Ramcharan said on Friday U.S.-led occupation forces had committed "serious violations" of international humanitarian law in Iraq and had ill-treated ordinary Iraqis.

In a report for the world body's Human Rights Commission, Ramcharan, a British-trained barrister from Guyana and long-time U.N. official, also said coalition troops were able to act with impunity and urged the appointment of an independent figure to monitor their behaviour.

In a clear reference to the Abu Ghraib incidents, since when several U.S. male and female soldiers working there have been detained, Ramcharan said "wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment" of detainees was a grave breach of international law.

Such acts "might be designated as war crimes by a competent tribunal", he added.

The only U.S. soldier to face court martial so far for his role in the Abu Ghraib abuses was sent to jail for one year.

U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli declined to comment on whether U.S. soldiers may have committed war crimes at Abu Ghraib and said the United States believed its soldiers should be judged within the U.S. military justice system.

Ereli said reports that U.S. forces may have mistreated ordinary Iraqis were troubling and Washington would ask for more details.

The United States has refused to sign a 1998 treaty creating the world's first permanent global war crimes tribunal.

The United States was one of 135 nations to sign the treaty under former President Bill Clinton. But President George W. Bush's administration rescinded the signature, fearing the court could bring politically motivated or frivolous cases against U.S. troops serving on foreign soil.

The 45-page report cited one former Abu Ghraib detainee, Saddam Abood Al-Rawi, 29, as telling U.N. investigators he was subjected to 18 days of torture at the U.S.-run prison.

This included the pulling of teeth, kicking and beating and threats of rape, and warnings he would be killed if he told a visiting international Red Cross team about his treatment.

The report quoted Rawi as saying that he suffered physical torture when he was held at an Iraqi prison under ousted president Saddam Hussein. But under U.S.-led occupation forces, he was additionally subjected to "humiliation and mental cruelty".

CRITICISED AS "LIGHT"

"The serious violations of human rights and humanitarian law that have taken place (since U.S. and British troops invaded Iraq in March last year and ousted then President Saddam Hussein) must not be allowed to recur," the report said.

But the report, which asserted that "everyone accepts" that the U.S. and its allies intended their troops in Iraq to behave well, drew criticism from Reed Brody, special counsel to the U.S.-based Human Rights Watch organisation.

"It seems very light, and to bend over backwards to accept the good faith of the U.S.," he told Reuters by telephone. "I don't think it is the place of the U.N. human rights office to evaluate the intentions of a state or group of states."

Ramcharan's spokesman, Jose Luis Diaz, denied there had been any outside effort to have the report watered down. "There was no pressure on this office," he told Reuters.

Ramcharan suggested that among the more serious violations was the jailing of large numbers of Iraqis without anyone's knowledge and without any reasons being given.

His report, submitted to U.S. and British officials for comment on Wednesday, cited Iraqis interviewed in Amman as speaking of "arbitrary arrests and detention as an ongoing phenomenon" since the invasion.

The report said Saddam's removal was a major contribution to human rights in Iraq. His government "was a brutal, murderous, torturing gang that preyed on its own people".

"Everyone accepts the good intentions of the coalition governments as regards the behaviour of their forces in Iraq," Ramcharan said. Iraq could now be "on the road to democracy, the rule of law, and governance that is respectful of human rights".



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To: kattracks
Here are some U.N. Peacekeepers in action in Somalia:


21 posted on 06/04/2004 6:26:10 PM PDT by ambrose (AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
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To: aft_lizard

BUMP.


22 posted on 06/04/2004 6:27:32 PM PDT by onyx
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To: kattracks

The human rights situation in most of those third-world hell holes that provide staffers for the UN are abysmal. Their prisoners should be so lucky as to be in an American-run jail in Iraq.


23 posted on 06/04/2004 6:27:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: aft_lizard
The United Nations' top human rights official says abuses by U.S. soldiers of Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison could amount to war crimes.

Faggetaboutit, Kofi.

You don't want to go there.~~~ EVER.

24 posted on 06/04/2004 6:28:04 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: ambrose

They're just trying to remove a tick from his butt.


25 posted on 06/04/2004 6:29:49 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: kattracks
Well, let's see. The men in question weren't pow's since they weren't captured in Iraqi uniforms, so they don't get Geneva Convention protection.

Crime... time...

26 posted on 06/04/2004 6:30:21 PM PDT by Maigrey (Death is light as a feather; duty as heavy as a mountain - Rand Al'Thor)
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To: LibWhacker

Oh MAN! That's some cruel and unusual punishment! Doesn't the Geneva Convention have some kind of helen thomas rule of inhuman treatment??


27 posted on 06/04/2004 6:30:23 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: kattracks

Hey Ramcharan.

Sit on this and spin!


28 posted on 06/04/2004 6:30:46 PM PDT by Humidston (THE ACLU ~IS~ THE ENEMY.)
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To: Servant of the 9
If John French Kerry wins in November, those troops are doomed

We're ALL doomed..
let's make sure it doesn't happen

29 posted on 06/04/2004 6:32:01 PM PDT by evad (CAUTION: Liberal objects in mirror are closer than they seem)
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To: kattracks

Sorry Kofi, that's our trailer trash to kick to the curb. We'll deal with it. Go back to countin' your kick back money.


30 posted on 06/04/2004 6:33:14 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: kattracks
GENEVA (NBS) - The United Nations' top human rights official says the overblown "abuses" by U.S. soldiers of Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison should amount to a mountain out of a molehill.

Kofi is nothing but an international Arafat hiding behind a nice guy mask.

It is him who should be on trial.

I spit on the UN.

31 posted on 06/04/2004 6:37:57 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: kattracks

Acting High Commissioner for Human Rights Bertrand Ramcharan

32 posted on 06/04/2004 6:39:09 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (The RATS must turn to a cheating, lying, perjurist/rapist to try to save their candidate. Bwahahaha!)
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To: kattracks
U.S. Court Says It's OK for Iraqis to Torture American POWs
33 posted on 06/04/2004 6:40:01 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

"Time to put a boot up the arse of the UN."

HOO-YAH!


34 posted on 06/04/2004 6:40:50 PM PDT by whadizit
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I think so. Geneva Conventions, Article 99: If an act is equal to, or worse than, having Helen Thomas' Depends pulled over your head, that act shall be defined as a class 1 war crime. ;-)
35 posted on 06/04/2004 6:44:45 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
What jurisdiction does the UN have over our soldiers?

NONE!

36 posted on 06/04/2004 6:47:12 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

treaties


37 posted on 06/04/2004 6:54:08 PM PDT by take
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To: aft_lizard

up yours bertrand


38 posted on 06/04/2004 6:56:35 PM PDT by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: kattracks
Such acts "might be designated as war crimes by a competent tribunal", he added.

Yeah, "competent" here means "anti-US."
39 posted on 06/04/2004 6:57:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: kattracks

I don't care what the crimes of a U.S. soldier or citizen might be, I would never--ever--relinquish them to a U.N. kangaroo court.


40 posted on 06/04/2004 7:01:34 PM PDT by kezekiel
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