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U.S. is lost in Afghanistan
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 31, 2004 | Robert Novak

Posted on 05/31/2004 1:43:51 PM PDT by GreatOne

Edited on 05/31/2004 1:48:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: RaginCajunTrad
Yes, "outing CIA agents" at the request of the Bush Regime.

What is a Trad?

21 posted on 05/31/2004 1:56:39 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Kerry is a major dork))
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To: Russ
That's ingratiate.
22 posted on 05/31/2004 1:57:00 PM PDT by Russ
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To: GreatOne

They should get the Indians into Afghanistan. They are supported by the northern alliance and the Pathans who see them as a safeguard against Paki interference.


23 posted on 05/31/2004 1:57:16 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: RaginCajunTrad

This sounds about right for Afganistan. The truth hurts.


24 posted on 05/31/2004 1:58:10 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: RaginCajunTrad
The Bush Regime

Moe Ron

25 posted on 05/31/2004 1:58:16 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: eastforker

I'm sure it's a close sibling relationship. "Third or fourth tour...". It's such a casual thing. Just flitting in and out of the war zone don'tcha know.


26 posted on 05/31/2004 1:58:22 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: RaginCajunTrad

I sure hope no one looks at your posting history...then they will understand where you are coming from.


27 posted on 05/31/2004 1:58:55 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

"they don't seem to have the same opinion"

I guess there are two sides to every coin. You got yours and I got mine.


28 posted on 05/31/2004 1:59:43 PM PDT by RaginCajunTrad (Proud to be a Trad!)
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To: Rokke

And I bet I do not get an answer either.


29 posted on 05/31/2004 1:59:59 PM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: aynrandfreak

That is it in a nutshell.

LLS


30 posted on 05/31/2004 2:01:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("I'm mad as hell, and I'm not taking it anymore"!)
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To: RaginCajunTrad
Yours happens to be wrong.

What unit is your brother in?

Maybe YOU'RE lying.

31 posted on 05/31/2004 2:01:36 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: RaginCajunTrad
Actually, I don't have a side...I just help out with the troops themselves.

Now, from looking at your posting history, you definately have a side...and it isn't the same side the troops are on. Not surprising that you keep pumping the constitution party...they're firmly against the war.

32 posted on 05/31/2004 2:01:54 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: RaginCajunTrad

You're not much of a brother if you don't even know if he's on his "3rd or fourth tour."


33 posted on 05/31/2004 2:02:17 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: GreatOne

OBL is not in Afghanistan. He's in Iran.


34 posted on 05/31/2004 2:02:19 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: sinkspur

Just look at her posting history and you'll have your answer.


35 posted on 05/31/2004 2:02:40 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: sinkspur

He is neither a liar or a Democrat sinky. Just like you are neither a liar nor a Catholic deacon.

Just a bunch of hopeless warmongers.

As for my self, I support the Constitution Party and also the Constitution, something the Bush Regime could learn how to do.


36 posted on 05/31/2004 2:02:46 PM PDT by RaginCajunTrad (Proud to be a Trad!)
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To: GreatOne
This here's horse plop. Afghanistan is in remarkably good shape. The level of violence has been very small. The Afghan army is turning out to be pretty good (desertion rates are high, but those who stay have proven themselves effective soldiers).

Novak is dead wrong on the Taliban. The Taliban are shattered, able to do little but ambush the occasional aid convoy. If anyone takes over in the event of a collapse of the Karzai government, it will be a Pashtun coalaition, which is NOT synomous with the religious zealotry of the Taliban (the Afghans, like the Turks, have historically eschewed extremist Islam). However, the Karzai government has been able to make a lot of progress, at least by the standards of Afghanistan (if not Bob Novak).

He is also wrong about the capabilities of US forces there. In fact, the US has recently launched a version of the Vietnam-era Combanied Action Platoon concept in eastern Afghanistan. It has been quite successful (Westy hated the USMC's CAP program in Vietnam, which is high praise for the Marines). Likewise, we are getting some real help from the Europeans there. Everyone is using it as an opportunity to give their special forces some real combat experience. While many of the European armies suck, their special ops guys typically do not.

It is true that the drug trade still flourishes, but that is a price we have to pay, at least in the short-term. Sadly, we are also getting little help from the Pakistanis on nabbing Osama & Co., but that is just a matter of time.

I used to like Novak, but he's gone to sh*t in the last five years.

37 posted on 05/31/2004 2:02:46 PM PDT by Seydlitz
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To: RaginCajunTrad
The Bush Regime is more interested in doing things for political gains than for any other reason.
 
Bush Regime, right out of the Kerry talking points, eh?
 
My brother in law returned from his second stint in Afghanistan and he said morale was high, and while the work was difficult, he knew excellent progress was being made and terrorists were being culled at a remarkable rate.
Further, I'm in contact daily with a friend who is in Afghanistan and he is anything but the way Novak describes.  In fact, his chief complaint is lack of internet access.
 
My opinion:  Novak is throwing another tantrum because he's no longer a WH insider.  Just a CNN dilettante.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

38 posted on 05/31/2004 2:03:07 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (FReep 'em all, let God sort 'em out.)
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To: RaginCajunTrad

Rush re-ran the “Jeff from Moreland, OK” interview today. I was so glad to hear it again…I missed some the first time around. Part of what “Jeff” said came to my mind when I read your comment. He said being back in this country scares him a lot more than his tours in Iraq…why? Because of the way the press is painting our mission (and the part the military is playing it). He said the way the press makes it sound, EVERYTHING is going wrong…and that’s just the opposite of what’s actually happening. If Iraq (and Afghanistan) ARE a lost cause, it will be because of the liberal press, leftist politicians (Kennedy, Pelosi, Clinton et al), and bleeding heart liberals who are too stupid to understand that THEY are going to lose their freedoms (just like the rest of us) when this country falls.


39 posted on 05/31/2004 2:03:07 PM PDT by Maria S ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm."George W. Bush 1/20/01)
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To: MNnice

Image that...on his third or fourth tour and is totally demoralized by the Bush regime.


40 posted on 05/31/2004 2:03:49 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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