Posted on 05/31/2004 3:49:03 AM PDT by Americathy
After a lifetime of ridiculing single-issue voters, I've become one. Don't bother me with prescription drugs, Bush's anti-conservative spending habits, the growth of government, and lousy Republican stewardship over the wetlands.
We are at war!
Dammit, don t you understand? We are at WAR? Just because House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi doesn t feel it (her words, not mine!), that doesn't excuse the rest of us. This war, in spite of all that s gone wrong, is eminently winnable. I see, not just goodness, but glory if American policy succeeds. And, conversely, unending trouble if it doesn't. And I mean big trouble; possibly even civilization-ending trouble!
This may seem like a strange defense of President Bush. But it will be followed by an even stranger attack on Senator John Kerry.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
We can't have Reagan again. Without the war we could speculate on the benefits of having a president Kerry facing a Republican House and Senate. Given what is available now and without the war, I personally think that is much more sensible than re-electing W. But that is not the situation. This war changes all that. We must have a president who understands the war and the enemy and a congress that will not emasculate him.
It's a similar attitude as expressed by former NYC mayor Ed Koch [D] recently, where he stated 'I may disagree with President Bush on everything domestically, but what difference does it make if we're all dead!'.
He gets it, that's why he supports President Bush. Looks like the same can be said for Barry Farber.
Farber is totally one of our guys. In this piece he is merely saying that even for the folks who believe all those left absurdities, if they succeed in electing Kerry and spiking our defense in this war, they are going to lose all they hold dear also. If your country loses a major war then you lose the opportunity to implement your ideas at all and you lose all the things you have already done to bring your environmental and socialist Utopia. Conservatives who think W has advanced the socialist agenda more than a crat could and socialists who think Bush is from the wrong social background and is a polluting evil Christian etc. should all put their complaints about W on hold and reelect him to fight this war, continue to work for what we believe in and pray (who/what do lefties pray to?)that whoever follows W in 08 can continue it. By then maybe the lefties might realize that they have to survive before they can legislate Nirvana.
Your reading of the article is entirely too superficial. Do jokes with punch lines generally leave you wondering "why would he say/do that?"
"Big thinkers" such as Mr. Farber know this is what he meant.
There is a big HOWEVER, nonetheless.
People who don't pay much attention to politics; those who "have a life" or who won't pay attention for a few more months are going to decide this election. And if our people allow the "Bush lied" point we could be in trouble.
I know that because my liberal friends actually smirk when they bring up this point. In their minds they've planted him squarely on a par with their hero, Clinton. Except that "our" lying scumbag is also an ignoramus!
Do you want to give them that? Not I!
Right on! I have been screaming this until my throat is sore.
Arm yourselves with the truth. These so-called dim-o-Rats melt away rather quickly, when they are faced with the truth about Al Qaeda, WMD, and Iraq. They skulk off to lick their wounds with like-minded terror appeasers.
I have openly debated (in the Grocery, line at the Bank/Post Office etc) more than a few dimmies. 8 out of 10 people will join in the debate, and they are ALL against what the left is saying.
The last heated exchange took place in the US Post Office, ending in a round of resounding applause upon the defeat on one lefty. There was this retired dimmie spouting on about how Bush had wrecked the economy, and how he had started an unjust war. He soon tired of having the patrons around him join in against his argument, and briskly left the premises without mailing his package. A retired Navy Chief came up to me and shook my hand. He said, "Damn, that was fun"!
Try it; you'll like it! It also is far more influential than a "sound bite".
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The one group he doesn't speak to here and cannot speak to is are the liberals whose overriding belief is that America is the source of all the evils in the world and deserves destruction. Unfortunately that feeling is the ground that undergirds the environmental, social, and economic beliefs of a great many liberals. They want to save the wetlands and may even see that only if W is reelected will they continue to be able to fight for the snail darter, still, they feel deep inside that it is better if America does not survive, wetlands or no wetlands.
Such folks do not read Barry Farber. Unfortunaately neither do the lefties who need to understand these things. He is, however giving us all arguments to use with liberals, some of whom may be led to understand the fact of life presented here, that if they allow their country to be beaten and Islamized then all their programs and all their dreams are in the toilet and flushed and cannot be resurrected.
I pay attention to politics and I also "have a life", you see, the cost price of Freedom is vigilance.
Barry Farber and Ed Koch (yikes!) are both absolutely correct. I've said it before on these boards: All the issues that may divide us as Americans won't mean a damned thing if we don't defeat radical Islam.
Has Bush spent too much on BS? Sure. Has he made mistakes in the war? Yes, he has. However, as long as he wins reelection, America retains a future and a workable destiny. If the skeleton from Massachusetts ends up being President, we may as well start burning every religious text except the Koran.
It's a low-grade form of war. It's not even as intense as Vietnam.
Okay, I reread what he said. He concedes that the Bush Administration lied about Iraq having WMD's and that there never was an Iraq-Al Qaeda connection. I am saying he is incorrect and it is easily proven so. How does this make me superficial? And yeah, where's the punchline? He is not saying he knows there were WMD's in Iraq, he is saying he is conceding that we were lied to about them. He is not saying there was an obvious Iraq-Al-Qaeda connection since the early 90's, he is saying it never existed. This does not make me superficial, this makes Barry Farber wrong. We need FULL SUPPORT in re-electing out couragous President, not the concession to propaganda by the domestic enemy, yes I said enemy. Now, how does it affect you for him to be so wrong, what do you have in it?
He's cute, but we are facing just as big a "civilization ending" invasion right in our own nation that is being ignored by both parties.
To earn the respect and support of people of principle, a president must have principle. Bush is doing fine in the WOT, and yet for all his claims that a military cannot protect an American border, troops have been sent to guard the borders of Iraq. His numbers began a big decline after his amnesty speech, I don't know what can be pulled out of the magic hat to bring them up before Nov.
It will be infinitely more expensive and damaging to our society and economy if we do it the Liberal-Crat way. Post-war recovery will be infinitely harder than it was after WWII. The liberal voters may prefer destruction of America to fighting back but politicians, even liberal politicians,especially liberal politicians, want to survive. Politicians have major egos and liberals have weak or no belief in anything transcendent. They will not do suicide.
Even understanding that Kerry would ultimately fight and win, the Crat way of war would leave no resources to implement the utopia the liberals must work for.
Bush is their best bet for socialism just as Bush is our best bet for Constitutional government. He works for neither but he will leave the possibilities on the table.
The war on terrorism right now is like America fighting Hitler's Germany in 1938, we may have lost 20,000 or 30,000 troops defeating him then instead of 460,000 as it happened, maybe the world needed the lesson, let's not allow the lesson learned at so great a price be in vain, defeat the Islamic facist enemy now, pull no punch.
But it is, like Viet Nam part of a much larger war. Viet Nam is best seen as not a war but rather as a campaign in the war between the Soviet Union and America. Iraq and Afghanistan are campaigns in the war between Islam and the rest of the world, the third such war.
In the Viet Nam campaign there was no likelihood, ever, that we would suffer strikes on our own soil. We have suffered such strikes twice in this one, both times at WTC and are constantly at risk of more such strikes, perhaps nuclear or biological or chemical. Don't trivialize it just because we have not had so many casualties and things have gone quickly.
By the way how many casualties did we suffer in our 1st couple of years in Viet Nam?
He conceded no such thing and you could not believe he did unless you are quite unfamiliar with Barry Farber and do not handle implications and inferences very well. He was saying that even if such things were so....
He is saying that the leftists cannot do a damned thing about their goals and beliefs if we don't win this war so they had better hope Bush wins the election.
I read the thing again, yes, he concedes that the Bush Administration lied about WMD's and that there was no Iraq-Al Qaeda connection. "To save time, let me concede...." I am unfamiliar with this, what is he? a columnist? Seems he is willing to give into leftist propaganda that can be easily disputed. Even though he, himself admits that he believes we were lied to about WMD's in Iraq and that there was no connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda, you steadfastly suggest he does not believe this. I'll believe what he says he believes over what you say he believes.
Keep saying it NCPAC...it's true and it's the bottom line.
It will take many years for many to understand, so we have to keep at it relentlessy until the vocal majority overwhelms the elite media and the issue takes center stage for what it is!
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