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To: Badray
Knowing Hoeffel's votes on 2nd amendment issues and the like, I'd hope you reconsider voting for Joe Hoeffel. He's just that bad. I'm not a Specter fan either, but Joe's would likely be voting to ban the .30-30. If you can't vote for Specter, I'd hope you'd at least go to a 3rd party vote instead.

Specter's loss would mean that a Snowe, a Collins, a Chaffee, a Jeffords, or some other spineless, gutless coward like Frist would chair that committee, I would not be advocating this action.

But a Pat Leahy(Who I think it would be), Dianne Feinswine, Joe Biden, or Ted Kennedy would be worse. The Senate majority could go down to the wire too. It's a gambit. While Specter would be terrible, the dem would be worse, and Schumer will likely chair a subcommittee. Jon Kyl is better, but he won't make it if there isn't a majority.

I know you do what you have to do, but keeping the senate is not a give, and I hope you consider that in your vote. No matter what, Specter will be gone in 6 years anyway if not earlier. Hoeffel may be there for 20+.

11 posted on 05/30/2004 9:14:06 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong.” - Reagan)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Tough Senate Races
Alaska (R)
Colorado(Open - R)
Florida (Open - D)
Georgia (Open - D)
Louisiana (Open - D)
North Carolina (Open - D)
Oklahoma (Open - R)
Pennsylvania (R)
South Carolina (Open - D)
South Dakota (D)
Possibly Tough races(Longshots but winnable if things are near perfect)
Arkansas(D)
California(D)
Illinois (Open - R)
Missouri(R)
Nevada(D)
Washington (D)
Wisconsin (D)
19 posted on 05/30/2004 9:25:17 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong.” - Reagan)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Dan, I appreciate your comments and welcome your insights. I am as sure as I can be that we will hold the senate and without the likes of this rino, it will be a more solid reliable hold.

Specter is unreliable on the gun issue anyway. A moment after telling gun owners that he made a mistake in voting for the 93 AWB because it was ineffective and violated our 2nd Amendment rights, he then told us that he would vote for it again if it was part of an important package. Now there's conviction.

If we lose all of the races that we'd have to lose in order for the Dems to take back the Senate, then this country has more problems than just Arlen. I'm willing to take this chance because it's our best one.

And remember, if Hoeffel wins it will because of our votes. He won't have them the next time and the real Republican will. Have faith and courage. We can make this work for us.


25 posted on 05/30/2004 9:34:13 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

"No matter what, Specter will be gone in 6 years anyway if not earlier. Hoeffel may be there for 20+."

Oh ye of little faith. Although it is likely true that Specter would be gone in 6 years, the damage he will be capable of causing in that term could literally last generations. Hoeffel, on the other hand will not posess, nor be granted any amount of power to inflict long-term damage during his freshman term. He can be gone in 6 years as well, could he not? Is it so unlikely that we will be unable to place a candidate in 2010 that will re-gain the seat for concervatives?
Think of it as a baseball organization:
Generally, every baseball organization has a major-league team and a single A, double A and triple A minor league team training it's younger, less experienced players to possibly make it to "the show".
Specter, if elected, is in "the show" and will be pitching. He will have control, on may occasions during his 6-year term, to either fast-pitch and strike out a player, or oh-so-casually pitch just outside the strike zone and walk players.
Hoeffel, however, being a freshman senator, would be on the single A team learning the ropes and the rules. Yes, he will have the opportunity to play, but not to throw out any pitches on the major league team, where those decisions are made. No single A player is permitted, according to the rules of the game, to go straight from single A to the majors...they must do their time and before being eligible to play with the "big boys". Unless he proves to be outstandingly talented, it simply cannot happen. Is Hoeffel talented to the level that would give him any amount of damaging power in his first term???


681 posted on 06/03/2004 12:36:02 PM PDT by irishrose2262
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