Indie,
I love you dearly.
But you have lived long enough to know that at one point in time, it may seem right, fitting, wise, good, productive and healthy . . . for whatever goals in whatever context . . .
to say or do XYZ.
And sometimes the next 5 minutes, 5 hours, 24 hours, week,
It can suddenly appear 180 degrees the opposite for very reasonable reasons.
And that's under the best of circumstances with the best of intentions and all the information available.
LIFE IS JUST *THAT* COMPLEX.
PEOPLE ARE JUST *THAT* COMPLEX.
Assuming, imputing, assigning motives without sufficient 'inside the skin' understanding is HAZARDOUS at best and generally rather arrogant and foolhardy--especially with insufficient data.
I prefer to trust folks who generally appear to make every effort to be constructive, helpful, contributive, reasonable, fair-minded etc . . . I PREFER TO GIVE SUCH FOLKS HEREON WAY MORE THAN THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
And, even when some untoward, ornery, bad faith bunch of facts have been repeatedly rubbed in my face, I'd still prefer to bend over backwards and do a long series of back flips rather than hazard the generaly very significant and amazing amount of unity in a common purpose and spirit so persistently in evidence on this thread.
Some things are an incredibly greater priority. And that unity of purpose and spirit is one of them.
There's no need to deny reality etc. But one can exhort in a spirit of tentative understanding and brotherly love through freepmail. If that still is not sufficiently satisfying, then bring in an old timer who's likely to be a wise third perspective and good at bridging differences--still in FREEPMAIL.
I can't think of many good reasons to disrupt the public tone and spirit of the thread for selfish, brittle, lopsided, limited, and/or personal perspectives which are likely to be greatly flawed [due to never having ALL the information from ALL sides and perspectives] at best, anyway.
imho.
Like I said IF you read the entire thread, there is a huge double standard going on here, and one which is revealing itself AGAIN in your post.
How about if I, sissyjane and grizz leave? Will our mockers be ostracized as we were for running us off? I don't think so.
You guys have fun in the little cliques here. It is getting old and I've had enough dealing with 12 yr olds. You had to bring it up AGAIN after all was said and done....
Enjoy. You've got it to youselves without my heinous intervention in an argument that was not of my beginning. I merely tried to defend where defense was due.
Some things just are not worth the aggravation.
Bye now.
I can't think of many good reasons to disrupt the public tone and spirit of the thread for selfish, brittle, lopsided, limited, and/or personal perspectives which are likely to be greatly flawed
Bump!