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D-Day? France Preferred Us to the U.S. Even Then, Says German Veteran
The Telegraph ^ | May 30, 2004 | Tony Paterson

Posted on 05/29/2004 7:32:00 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: nathanbedford

I agree I don't think we invaded France soley to liberate them. It was just a front to advance on Germany to bring the Third Reich down.


41 posted on 05/29/2004 10:51:35 PM PDT by Gkubly
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To: quidnunc

Gee what a dufus!!! The reason that DDay is viewed from the Allies point of view is cause it was our operation and we were busy kicking NAZI butt out of conquered lands. The fact that there were collaborators only says the French are fundamentally cowards. I really am sick to death of the European sensibilties that allow for things like the Holocast but are offended when freedom is defended


42 posted on 05/29/2004 11:30:14 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: quidnunc

Geez...old man just die already.


43 posted on 05/30/2004 12:59:06 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
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To: Psycho_Bunny

"I think the war-oriented pictures I remember the most are the ones of enemies from years past sitting down and having a nice chat." Yeah, especially the ones from the Jap POW camps.


44 posted on 05/30/2004 6:19:00 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Will Kerry accept Osama's terms of unconditional surrender at the Paris Peace Conference?)
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To: Loyalist
The Free French Resistance was the only group of WWII veterans whose numbers kept growing every year after the war ended.

Yeah, because La Résistance was full of communists. But that tiny fact is very seldom mentioned in the 'media'. However sometimes it slips out on the History Channel with interviews of old FRENCH communists who were in La Résistance.

45 posted on 05/30/2004 7:11:08 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists Are Moral and Intellectual Parasites)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
"Jap POW camps"

With all due respect, I think you mean Jap DEATH Camps. Fewer Allied POW's made it back alive from 'jap POW camps' than German camps. Only Russia killed more POW's than Japan.

46 posted on 05/30/2004 7:16:32 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists Are Moral and Intellectual Parasites)
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To: vbmoneyspender

If all the French who claim to have fought with the resistance really had they could've fought the Germans off themselves.


47 posted on 05/30/2004 7:16:38 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: CatoRenasci

We should have traded Poland for France at Yalta.


48 posted on 05/30/2004 7:26:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: quidnunc
This article seems to serve the growing purpose of trying to turn the whole world against the U.S.

It's fascinating though. I wonder if Herr Gockel would have preferred to serve on Ze Eastern Front, where there was some SERIOUS payback going on for those wholesome German lads.
49 posted on 05/30/2004 7:28:37 AM PDT by hemogoblin (The sign said "Mission Accomplished," not "War Over.")
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To: CatoRenasci
(Many would agree with Churchill's comment that the Hun is always at your throat or at your feet).

The first thing that came to mind when I read this was the old Arab proverb "Kiss the hand you cannot bite."

50 posted on 05/30/2004 11:51:09 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Howlin

What do you expect from a German with the name of Gockel(Rooster)?
Isn't the "Rooster", or Chicken the French Mascot? :)


51 posted on 05/30/2004 11:58:22 AM PDT by americanbychoice2
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To: quidnunc

The germans were brutal when they occupied France. Having lived in France for 4 years in the late 50's and early 60's, I can tell you that France preferred the U.S. to Germany.


52 posted on 05/30/2004 12:05:30 PM PDT by ampat
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To: ampat

To continue my previous post, I'm sure many german soldiers were nice people doing what they were ordered to. The SS troopers and Gestapo on the other hand were vicious. France changed after they kicked us out of the country in 1967 and left NATO. Their growing ties with the Soviet Union changed the French landscape and seeded socialism. Henceforth you have two conflicting societies: capitalism vs a growing socialism, which has gradually changed the relationship between France and the U.S. Also, the WWII generation has died off, and there is a lack of first hand experience and knowledge of those days.


53 posted on 05/30/2004 12:26:14 PM PDT by ampat
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