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It's not slander if it's backed-up.

I wasn't convinced, it all looked subjective to me.

Besides, I wrote it, so it would be libel and not slander

Technically correct. So it was libel then.

Opera and Mozilla/Firefox. Same key too.

Interesting. So they directly copied an IE feature, down to the exact keystroke?

tabbed browsing

I run full screen, don't like tabbed browsing.

security

Security has never been a problem for me with IE. You have to actually click something you shouldn't have before there's even a chance of an issue.

cookie managemnt

Again no problem, I block them all except where I register, especially the "third party cookies" meaning spyware can't install either.

download manager

Ugh. I HATE third party download utils, I like one consistent interface.

password management

Caching of passwords is actually a security issue.

quality popup blocking and management

I usually run through the annonymizer.com proxy that blocks ALL that crap, although MS needs to improve the basic browser, which I've heard they're doing with the next XP service release.

selective disallowing of specific intrusive JavaScript functions

You can configure what Java functions run in IE.

Oh well, thanks anyway. Looks like my current IE setup is more than fine, and already installed and working.

Interesting. So they directly copied an IE feature, down to the exact keystroke?

Wow. That was clumsy even for you. In post #26 you tried to knock them for not having that feature. Where is your outrage over all the features from the Netscape Browser that are standard in IE?

(You don't have to answer that. We already know you're not trying to be consistent. Just pro-Microsoft.)

Incidentally, Internet Explorer was once the best browser available, hands down. And the way they achieved it was a terrific tech sector success story.

I also understand why they stopped investing heavily in IE. They had already achieved the dominance they intended, and weren't going to see any proportionate benefit by continuing at that pace. Makes pefect business sense, and any Microsoft stockholder should suppoprt the decision.

But the fact is, because they haven't paid much attention to the browser, they're now clearly no longer the best. Your pretense that you don't like any of those features IE doesn't offer sounds exactly like that of the Netscape curmudgeons, as IE 4 and 5 passed their preferred browser in quality.

I run full screen, don't like tabbed browsing.

You not using it is not the point, many people do and like it and IE cant do it.

Ugh. I HATE third party download utils, I like one consistent interface.

Please tell me who firefox including a download manager with it makes it a 'third party' app.. Its part of the browser and again you not liking it does not mean nobody does. Beside it is as easy to disable as setting cookie handling in IE.

I usually run through the annonymizer.com proxy that blocks ALL that crap, although MS needs to improve the basic browser, which I've heard they're doing with the next XP service release.

Using a third party tool to do popubblocking huh?, So when IE builds in popup blocking will they be copying from Mozilla/Opera/FireFox?

I wasn't convinced, it all looked subjective to me.

It was all factual. It is not standards compliant, can't render CSS even close to properly, often sees security updates, computer newbies can easily find their home page changed and system infected with spyware. It's so bad that until recently I could crash any IE instance with a simple bad form tag or eject all your CD-ROM drives with a bit of JavaScript (fixes are now out though). It also has fewer features than the competition.

Interesting. So they directly copied an IE feature, down to the exact keystroke?

Yep. I think they also use Alt-F4 to close the application, too. Those thieving bastards!

I run full screen, don't like tabbed browsing.

And I like tabs and hate full screen. But the feature is there for all who like it, and I guess MS likes it because they're copying it. BTW, it's great for FR because you can go down the list and middle-click all the topics you want to read real quick, and they all load in background tabs, never taking you away from the main page.

Security has never been a problem for me with IE.

For you. Go back and look at all the security patches for IE since XP.

Again no problem, I block them all except where I register, especially the "third party cookies" meaning spyware can't install either.

A very cumbersome way of doing it. You can set Mozilla to work that way too, but then you're stuck enabling them all the time when you need them. In Mozilla you can block third party ones, then also go through the cookie list and delete all the site cookies you don't want -- and specify that those sites can no longer do so.

. I HATE third party download utils, I like one consistent interface

And others hate full screen or having multiple windows open. It's still a popular feature, although one I don't use either. IIRC, IE will get this too.

Caching of passwords is actually a security issue.

IE does it too, but Mozilla has a good feature to manage those saved passwords and form information. Getting to that feature can require you first enter a master password.

I usually run through the annonymizer.com proxy that blocks ALL that crap

What were you saying about not having to use third-party stuff? It's all built into Mozilla, even the way things can pop up, plus you can see any popups if you want. In the popup controls, you can also specify to allow popups in certain sites that require them.

You can configure what Java functions run in IE

Not to this level and definitely not this easily.

Notice you passed over the faster, smaller part. I know the concept is alien in a Microsoft world, so it might take a while for it to settle in.