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To: Howlin; arasina; Mo1; Peach
I'm afraid the media missed the most important thing that Bush said. Thats' too bad, but John Kerry just took it in the face. FULL SOVEREIGNTY. Not partial, not incremental, FULL SOVERIGNETY. That is VERY good news for the US, but horrible news to European nations hoping to gain Iraqi contracts by putting pressure on the US. The U.N. now has no bargaining power, as Iraqi's hate them. They will either assist because they should or they will not, but what Bush has done, is remove John Kerry's platform from viability.

European nations were hoping that Kerry would trade rebuilding contracts for their support in Iraq. That trading card has now been taken away. The media wont report on it, but I tell you there is panic in the Kerry camp tonight. At the same time that the U.N. has been set up to promote supporting a new resolution, they will have to do it for nothing in return. Germany and France will get no business from Iraq, but the U.N. will be forced to participate anyway.

707 posted on 05/24/2004 5:50:00 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Anything that takes away power from the UN is a good thing.

I'm assuming this isn't the big news though...perhaps next week?


716 posted on 05/24/2004 5:51:39 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Nice analysis, PD!


721 posted on 05/24/2004 5:51:56 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm afraid the media missed the most important thing that Bush said.

You're absolutely right. I missed it too! Excellent! Changes my perspective considerably.

736 posted on 05/24/2004 5:54:37 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Pukin Dog
That is VERY good news for the US, but horrible news to European nations hoping to gain Iraqi contracts by putting pressure on the US

And the Iraqis haven't forgotten about that Oil for Food program or how the UN and Europe screwed them

753 posted on 05/24/2004 5:57:05 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

You just hit the nail on the head.!!


778 posted on 05/24/2004 6:01:12 PM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: Pukin Dog; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; Jeff Head; afraidfortherepublic; Wait4Truth; cyn; ohioWfan
I'm afraid the media missed the most important thing that Bush said. Thats' too bad, but John Kerry just took it in the face. FULL SOVEREIGNTY. Not partial, not incremental, FULL SOVERIGNETY. That is VERY good news for the US, but horrible news to European nations hoping to gain Iraqi contracts by putting pressure on the US. The U.N. now has no bargaining power, as Iraqi's hate them. They will either assist because they should or they will not, but what Bush has done, is remove John Kerry's platform from viability.

European nations were hoping that Kerry would trade rebuilding contracts for their support in Iraq. That trading card has now been taken away. [ lol-YOU GO, PRESIDENT BUSH and TEAM! ] The media wont report on it, but I tell you there is panic in the Kerry camp tonight. At the same time that the U.N. has been set up to promote supporting a new resolution, they will have to do it for nothing in return. Germany and France will get no business from Iraq, but the U.N. will be forced to participate anyway.

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST, MOST INSIGHTFUL, INCREDIBLY REVEALING POSTS REGARDING THIS SPEECH TO DATE!

Certainly, I would have never nailed this point...but having read your analysis...just WOW!! SUPERB!! KUDOS!!! (Hope the kerry kamp - along with the bummed out greedy nations of france and GE, etc, - are writhing in depression about now...hehe)

799 posted on 05/24/2004 6:04:54 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Pukin Dog
I tell you there is panic in the Kerry camp tonight.

Kamp Kerry

842 posted on 05/24/2004 6:12:00 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is a sKunk!!)
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To: Pukin Dog
FULL SOVEREIGNTY. Not partial, not incremental, FULL SOVERIGNETY.

Just damn! On 30th of June 2004? That's news.

866 posted on 05/24/2004 6:15:19 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Pukin Dog
...what Bush has done, is remove John Kerry's platform from viability.

Good analysis all around!

But there's more to come...

The plan, which Bush cannot state formally, is to gain full U.S. operational power, both political and military, in the heartland of terrorists (the entire mideast.)

But, Bush is laying it out like a draw polker hand...one card at a time.

The truth is heard, but the data given by this one card draw approach generates a true puzzle within the populus That's one of the problems: Bush's public relations effort stays clear of the whole truth, that is: 'we will subdue the entire middle east threat,' a logical presupposition and also a consequence: The long-term goal--as stated--by Bush is insufficient to rally the masses. But to do otherwise, and lay out the big picture, would, in this Zeitgeist, be most un-PC.

934 posted on 05/24/2004 6:28:14 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm afraid the media missed the most important thing that Bush said. Thats' too bad, but John Kerry just took it in the face. FULL SOVEREIGNTY. Not partial, not incremental, FULL SOVERIGNETY. That is VERY good news for the US, but horrible news to European nations hoping to gain Iraqi contracts by putting pressure on the US. The U.N. now has no bargaining power, as Iraqi's hate them. They will either assist because they should or they will not, but what Bush has done, is remove John Kerry's platform from viability.

Interesting...I heard when he said it, but I didn't think of the ramifications of it, and especially to the Kerry platform.

I just thought of something...one of those "Reagan" type moments at the upcoming debate. The President might say, in his own self-deprecating (humorous) way, "The training wheels have been off, and the Big Foots are burning rubber", or something like that. Just a thought...

1,208 posted on 05/24/2004 7:33:34 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney for '04.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm afraid the media missed the most important thing that Bush said. Thats' too bad, but John Kerry just took it in the face. FULL SOVEREIGNTY. Not partial, not incremental, FULL SOVERIGNETY.

Thanks for explaining. I missed part of the speech, but this would have gone right over my head.

1,328 posted on 05/24/2004 8:23:29 PM PDT by RightWingMama
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