Offshoring hits home

Boulder Daily Camera ^ | May 23, 2004 | Erika Stutzman

[sarcasm]

ping

[snopercod]

America has been training foreign scientists and engineers in our universities for over forty years now. What did we expect?

Mama, don't let your sons grow up to be engineers...

[neutrino]

Thanks for the ping, Sarcasm!

Steve Troy, executive director of the Sustainable Village, said the "digital bridges" created by information technology give Third World and other poor nations a chance for their citizens to make more money than they otherwise could.

Here we see another side of the offshoring coin. The do-gooders wish to pick American pockets to fund their social engineering.

Do not let the honeyed words deceive you - these advocates of offshoring are members in good standing of the hate America crowd. They won't be satisfied until the American worker has been reduced to the level of Chinese prison labor.

If you want on or off my offshoring ping list, please FReepmail me!

[sarcasm]

Did you read the Guardian item about offshoring - they consider it to be reparations for British imperialism.

[inflation]

Listen to some of the pro-offshoring people on FR. They say the exact same thing, paroting the liberal line like it is a Good-Thing(tm).

[alex]

Offshoring is here but numbers in the article do not add. E.g. average compensation of US software is not more than $60/hour (it is way below this level) and Indians were $2/hour just a few years ago, now it closing on $10/hour and it is rising fast. And if the differential is less than 4X then outsourcing of the hi-end jobs is not feasible because of communications problems.

Again outsourcing is here but it is not a major factor, the major factor is that hi-tech boom is over.

[ivanhoe116]

"The trend right now is if there is anything people can do by taking their laptop home and working from there for two days, well, that job will be easily outsourced," he said.

I've worked for a major airline in the catering department for 15 years-outsourced. I was then moved to the cargo department-outsourced. No one, in either case, was taking their laptops home.

[neutrino]

Did you read the Guardian item about offshoring - they consider it to be reparations for British imperialism.

I regret to say I didn't! I don't suppose you have a link?

[sarcasm]

Let me search - it was posted here.

[Hotdog]

I've been and engineer for 27 years...7 years with my first job and 20 years in my current position. I have never lacked any work...if anything, it's getting harder to keep up with the work load. Trust me...if your good at what you do...someone out there is willing to hire you. You just need to look for it!

[A. Pole]

According to Forrester research, the average computer programmer in India earns roughly $10 per hour, compared with more than $60 per hour for the average American programmer.

"$60 per hour for the average American programmer."?! Why are they lying?

[neutrino]

"$60 per hour for the average American programmer."?! Why are they lying?

The free traitors lie about everything anyway - why shouldn't they lie about this as well?

[CasearianDaoist]

The rate in NYC is down to about $20 to $25.

[bvw]

They make their money on meta-changes. The wave of off-shoring is a meta-change. They make NO money on the status quo ante.

[bvw]

I've been and engineer for 27 years...7 years with my first job and 20 years in my current position. I have never lacked any work...if anything, it's getting harder to keep up with the work load. Trust me...if your good at what you do...someone out there is willing to hire you. You just need to look for it!

Let me be the first of many to tell YOU, you aren't showing ANY of an egineer's analytical skills in that remark.

Why? Because you give advice about hiring and the availability of jobs to be found when you have only had TWO in 27 years -- and been twenty years and more since you HAD to find a job.

You might be expert in HOLDING a job -- measured by your remarks -- but you showed yourself a rank tenderfoot and dilletante at looking for work in current market. Not very analytical, not at all.

It's like the "civil" engineer whose never seen a bridge collapse, and only studied two cases of collapse himself back years and years ago. Would you hire that civil engineer to analyze a suspect bridge for it's tendency to collapse? When the first thing he says -- on seeing it as you drie up to it - is "That bridge is a good bridge, and not likely to fall"?

Or would you think he as mite too quick on the draw and likely to shoot his foot off before the gun was out of the holster?

[Mears]

I hate to say it,but everybody lies.

It seems to have become the great American pastime.

Lie,get caught in the lie,apologize.

[ARCADIA]

"They say that the stockholders benefit. But what are they going to do when the country has no jobs for educated workers? We can't compete with someone who's going to be paid a nickel to our dollar. No matter how smart, or how experienced you are, you can't compete with an educated worker overseas who wants to make can live on $2,500 a year," Antman said.

The issue is not about what anyone wants to make; but, what it actually cost to live in the US versus another country. Outsource or downgrade enough workers and the cost of living here, the value of real assets, will also have to come down. If that has yet to materialized it may be because many people are living at a standard which is beyond their means. We can ignore the impact for as long as we have a liberal supply of credit. However, the day we hit a credit limit, is when the extent of the damage will become painfully evident.

[junta]

credit limit bump

[Hotdog]

Your right...I've only held two jobs in the past 27 years...but I have to say I get job offers almost monthly. I'm a world traveler and can tell you jobs are out there...the best ones are right here in the good old USA! (by the way...I'm an Eagle Scout...)