Anyone who professes to be a Christian that says we should stand with Islam is beyond human help. Islam preaches your death as a Christian, yet you say stand with Islam as a Christian.
Lord, please have mercy.
Posted on 05/19/2004 2:54:18 AM PDT by Theodore R.
What do we offer the world?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: May 19, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern
"So, how do we advance the cause of female emancipation in the Muslim world?" asks Richard Perle in "An End to Evil." He replies, "We need to remind the women of Islam ceaselessly: Our enemies are the same as theirs; our victory will be theirs as well."
Well, the neoconservative cause "of female emancipation in the Muslim world" was probably set back a bit by the photo shoot of Pfc. Lynndie England and the "Girls Gone Wild" of Abu Ghraib prison.
Indeed, the filmed orgies among U.S. military police outside the cells of Iraqi prisoners, the S&M humiliation of Muslim men, the sexual torment of their women raise a question. Exactly what are the "values" the West has to teach the Islamic world?
"This war ... is about – deeply about – sex," declaims neocon Charles Krauthammer. Militant Islam is "threatened by the West because of our twin doctrines of equality and sexual liberation."
But whose "twin doctrines" is Krauthammer talking about? The sexual liberation he calls our doctrine belongs to a '60s revolution that devout Christians, Jews and Muslims have been resisting for years.
What does Krauthammer mean by sexual liberation? The right of "tweeners" and teenage girls to dress and behave like Britney Spears? Their right to condoms in junior high? Their right to abortion without parental consent?
If conservatives reject the "equality" preached by Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan, NARAL and the National Organization for Women, why seek to impose it on the Islamic world? Why not stand beside Islam, and against Hollywood and Hillary?
In June 2002 at West Point, President Bush said, "Moral truth is the same in every culture, in every time and in every place."
But even John Kerry does not agree with George Bush on the morality of homosexual unions and stem-cell research. On such issues, conservative Americans have more in common with devout Muslims than with liberal Democrats.
The president notwithstanding, Americans no longer agree on what is moral truth. For as someone said a few years back, there is a cultural war going on in this country – a religious war. It is about who we are, what we believe and what we stand for as a people.
What some of us view as the moral descent of a great and Godly republic into imperial decadence, neocons see as their big chance to rule the world.
In Georgia, recently, the president declared to great applause: "I can't tell you how proud I am of our commitment to values. ... That commitment to values is going to be an integral part of our foreign policy as we move forward. These aren't American values, these are universal values. Values that speak universal truths."
But what universal values is he talking about? If he intends to impose the values of MTV America on the Muslim world in the name of a "world democratic revolution," he will provoke and incite a war of civilizations America cannot win because Americans do not want to fight it. This may be the neocons' war. It is not our war.
When Bush speaks of freedom as God's gift to humanity, does he mean the First Amendment freedom of Larry Flynt to produce pornography and of Salman Rushdie to publish "The Satanic Verses" – a book considered blasphemous to the Islamic faith? If the Islamic world rejects this notion of freedom, why is it our duty to change their thinking? Why are they wrong?
When the president speaks of freedom, does he mean the First Amendment prohibition against our children reading the Bible and being taught the Ten Commandments in school?
If the president wishes to fight a moral crusade, he should know the enemy is inside the gates. The great moral and cultural threats to our civilization come not from outside America, but from within. We have met the enemy, and he is us. The war for the soul of America is not going to be lost or won in Fallujah.
Unfortunately, Pagan America of 2004 has far less to offer the world in cultural fare than did Christian America of 1954. Many of the movies, books, magazines, TV shows, videos and much of the music we export to the world are as poisonous as the narcotics the Royal Navy forced on the Chinese people in the Opium Wars.
A society that accepts the killing of a third of its babies as women's "emancipation," that considers homosexual marriage to be social progress, that hands out contraceptives to 13-year-old girls at junior high ought to be seeking out a confessional – better yet, an exorcist – rather than striding into a pulpit like Elmer Gantry to lecture mankind on the superiority of "American values."
I do not see the world in black and white..I far too old to do that...I have struggled over many things concerning this war before it began..I thought,I read and I remembered...and finally backed it..unlike some, my backing isn't based on polls, neo con opinion (depending on whose calling who a neocon), it is based on Iraq's past and it's future, and on our future. The road is long.
Pat is right about one thing . . . ugly women do look better in burkhas.
If I were a heathen of a foreign land with the knowledge of what America's "freedom" represents today, should the offer of such "freedom" be given, I think I'd just say "No, thank you."
The stupidity of pig-ignorant democrats knows no bounds.
I used to joke about Pat Buchanan having professed Shahada.
He just went out and frickin' did it!
I guess his name's now Patrick Mohammed al-Buchanan...
Schizophrenic or more precisely neurotic. There is a great story The Picture of Dorian Gray, a must read for some :)
Hey, nobody likes prophets.
Answer:........
The 'NEA' and the 'ACLU'.....
and 'BP' British National/Socialist/GOVERNMENT-SUBSIDIZED oil/gas/refinery $$$$ at U.S. citizen gas pumps?
(What's success?....what's failure?.....whose tax base?)
/sarcasm
Anyone who professes to be a Christian that says we should stand with Islam is beyond human help. Islam preaches your death as a Christian, yet you say stand with Islam as a Christian.
Lord, please have mercy.
LOL!
I'm imagining a great photo parody... Pat in a kaffiyeh!
As I see it, Pat is pointing out moral conservatives are more aligned in their thinking with the moderate wing of islamites than the liberal, anything goes Democrat or Rino underminers of American principles.
It is extremely difficult to claim a place on the moral high road when you repeatedly find yourself limited to the service lane.
Buchanan is hitting on the right themes but fails to emphasize that we are still the world's best nation from a morality standpoint and therefore we have the "high ground" when going after the evil terrorists.
When Bush keeps referring to freedom, I too wonder sometimes about "freedom to do what....kill more babies in the womb?". Doesn't freedom really mean the ability or the environment to exercise a good moral choice?
Immorality is a national security risk.
Freedom from torture, tyranny, murder, rape organized by the government, freedom to elect their government, freedom to not be grabbed off the street for their political beliefs, freedom for women to go to work, drive, vote and take part in government.
We used to have laws against abortion,had a group in Hollywood to oversee content...now we don't. They can vote for their own laws as they will be free to do so. It won't be like our country...never fear...
We have allowed "freedom of speech" to go hog wild while limiting religion...Our freedoms have gone to freedom "from" religion and anything goes..
By the way...people stand in line or sneak across the border...wait years to enter the land you no longer like.
Buchanan is right on this --- we're not the same people who defeated Nazism in Europe --- we weren't so politically correct that we made it too complicated. We keep wanting to invite the new Nazis to the White House so they will pray for the conversion of the USA to Islam while we try to figure out which ones are evil to fight.
Iraq is going to show us that nation building isn't very easy because we don't really have what it takes to build nations.
Most powerful and the richest, yes. Most moral, how do you know, did you run some statistics? (unless you think that the power/wealth are same as virtue).
Anyway the key point is what Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote:
"If only there were evil people somewhere, insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"
I will take Solzhenitsyn anytime before Frum and Perle.
Liberal feminists and democrats are one good example of why we're too messed up as a culture. Yet half the population votes their way.
Pat Buchanan's Friends At Work
Funny. Buchanan frequently compared Clinton to Elmer Gantry.
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