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Two US Soldiers injured in Sarin laced IED explosion (per Gen Kimmitt)
CENTCOM | 5/17/04

Posted on 05/17/2004 7:20:20 AM PDT by Nexus

Just now, looking for copy...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: iraq; sarin; wmd
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To: txradioguy
Speaking of the vermin...

I don't think this will close the press, or the defeatists on FR, down. As you can see, they are persistent and will only shift their arguments around.

521 posted on 05/17/2004 2:20:21 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: billbears

So you claim that this rigged round was simply coincidence? [i.e. the terrorist "got lucky"]


522 posted on 05/17/2004 2:20:50 PM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: billbears
You seem to missing a salient point, the point that forced the Presidents hand in moving on Iraq.

That point is the confluence of terrorists, Ansar al Islam( Al Qa'ida), and CB weapons was a threat that had to be dealt with in Iraq.

Todays incident validates that Bush was right.

523 posted on 05/17/2004 2:21:20 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: billbears

"I was just pointing to some of the more ridiculous claims made by the administration before the conflict began, namely 29,000+ munitions that have escaped detection, along with thousand of liters and tons of other WMDs."


Hate to break it to you, The WMD's WERE in the country. Syria is guarding them now.


524 posted on 05/17/2004 2:21:55 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: billbears

I would highly recommend that you not express opinions like that in public unless you are at an ant-American rally. You never know when the parents of a deployed trooper, or a returning troop, might be close enough to hear.


525 posted on 05/17/2004 2:25:09 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

I agree. It's sickening to see how CNN and AP et. al. and some "FReepers" are already in full spin mode on this issue.


526 posted on 05/17/2004 2:27:17 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

No the terrorist more than likely used an old shell. If there are traces of sarin, which have yet to be proven by more than a field test, I would say it was left over from time gone by. Of course that would be the sensible answer.


527 posted on 05/17/2004 2:27:48 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: CWOJackson
I would highly recommend that you not express opinions like that in public unless you are at an ant-American rally

Wow, don't know what part of the country you're in sunshine but here in NC we still have the First Amendment and the right to speak out against our government if we so choose

528 posted on 05/17/2004 2:29:08 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: billbears

Of course you do. Quisling had the same right in Norway.


529 posted on 05/17/2004 2:30:44 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: billbears
traces of sarin in an "old round" would NOT cause the soldiers to become ill - AND - if you had been following this thread with ANY semblance of interest in what exactly had been ound you would know that the round contain the chemicals necessary to create sarin and the the mechanism needed to mix the chemicals [normally] is the firing of the round itself via artillery. Simply exploding the round would DESTROY the gas inside!

Of course we can't let a few pesky facts get in the way of a good denial now can we??

530 posted on 05/17/2004 2:31:06 PM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: billbears
there are traces of sarin, which have yet to be proven by more than a field test, I would say it was left over from time gone by. Of course that would be the sensible answer.

Here's a question for you.

How much deader can a 1 day old Binary GB 155mm arty shell make you than a ten year old Binary GB 155mm arty shell?

531 posted on 05/17/2004 2:33:04 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: billbears

You're missing one important point here. Saddam and the UN said that the WMD's were completely gone from the country. They were destroyed years ago.


Now we have a Sarin laced artillery shell used in an attack on coalition forces. Mustard gas is discovered last week.

If Saddam had REALLY gotten rid of his WMD's even a field test would produce results of a B/C (biological/chemical)residue on the test paper.

So we have PROVEN that a) Saddam did NOT destroy his WMD and their modes of delivery when he said they did. And b) There are STILL WMD in the country.

And before you try to point to the lab test thingy again...BG Kimmett would NOT go on the record about the finding of positive proof of a WMD being used unless he had gotten the green light from JTF-7 which means they are CERTAIN it's Sarin.


532 posted on 05/17/2004 2:34:31 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

They must have picked up the round at a garage sale or flea market.


533 posted on 05/17/2004 2:36:42 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
ROTFLMAO
534 posted on 05/17/2004 2:38:25 PM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: jwalsh07
"You seem to missing a salient point, the point that forced the Presidents hand in moving on Iraq.

That point is the confluence of terrorists, Ansar al Islam( Al Qa'ida), and CB weapons was a threat that had to be dealt with in Iraq."

There were several "salient points," even within the WMD category. It was also significant that terrorists proved themselves capable and willing to murder tens of thousands (remember that had the WTC been struck an hour later, and all 4 suicide flights successful, it's likely that 20,000 would have been dead).

In the light of this realization, and Saddam's uniquely supportive role of Islamicist terrorists ( ---alone among dictators of the world, Saddam financially supported religious terrorists, ---and openly boasted of it.), Bush decided to act. He was right then. He's right now.

535 posted on 05/17/2004 2:41:37 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him to VN. Nixon expressed him home. And JfK's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: cookcounty

I thought thats what I said. :-}


536 posted on 05/17/2004 2:44:15 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: CWOJackson
Nope, it was a prototype that Rummy smuggled over in his pants.

Are you happy to see me or is that a 155mm arty shell in your drawers?

537 posted on 05/17/2004 2:45:40 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: CWOJackson
I would highly recommend that you not express opinions like that in public unless you are at an ant-American rally.

Questioning the govt is not anti-American. It is in fact what sets us apart from many other nations in the world.

As for the one artillery shell that everybody is getting so excited about, I guess this means that Bush & Co can circle back to their original reason for the invasion of Iraq. Enough sheeple will perhaps buy it. So I can see why y'all are in such a festive mood.

538 posted on 05/17/2004 2:48:14 PM PDT by alpowolf
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To: alpowolf
LOL! I have to give you folks credit...you get funnier and funnier the more desperate you get.

That the only credit you will get from my generous soul.

539 posted on 05/17/2004 2:50:00 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Shrug...I'm not desperate at all. Y'all are the ones wetting your pants over this, shrieking "See! See! The Maximum Leader was right all along!" Well...we'll see.


540 posted on 05/17/2004 2:54:55 PM PDT by alpowolf
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