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To: Cracker72
Civil marriage is about imposing obligations, not granting rights. Society needs to impose obligations in order to protect widows and orphans and abandoned children. Without the imposition of obligations on spouses, society is left with the cost of raising children and caring for impoverished spouses.

In order to accomplish marriage for gays, the debate had to be changed from establishing obligations to rights. The subject went from the imposition of obligations to the granting of rights. In a nation that prides itself on equal rights, this reversal has been immensely successful in making the argument that gays should be granted the same rights as heteros.

In fact, its been so successful the religious right and all conservatives have accepted the premise and have been suckered into making the argument be one of rights. When they do all they can use to stop it is to invoke God to a godless world.

However, the redefining of the reason for state involvement has a dangerous and is eventually lethal to the concept of the obligations of marriage. Because marriage will be heretofore a concept that grants rights to the parties and not obligations, the laws and the court orders will begin to reflect this change. The final act of this play will be that impoverished spouses that get abandoned will not get as much support from the state as before and more children's needs will have to be met by the state.

Accompanying the slide caused by redefining marriage as a system of rights will come the property and income battles in courts by couples who are not dependent on each other and who have no children. This will be enhanced by the existence of the precedence of cases which gays will be bring forth. Their cases will be mostly concerned with dividing property and most likely determining who by virtue of having earned the property are most entitled to it. In other words, rights not obligations.

The result of this is we will move farther away from the concept that spouses are responsible for the children and their spouse if a marriage terminates. In short, the losers will be the the weakest members of the family and by extension the society as a whole which will be forced to pick up the pieces.
45 posted on 05/17/2004 5:18:07 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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We are being shown once again that we are not a representative republic at all, but an oligarchy. The left, as it has since the 1950's, simply imposes its desired doctrines on the public by judicial fiat.

Gay marriage couldn't pass at the ballot box, no problem... The yahoos vote to deny illegals rights to raid the public treasury, no problem...The same idiots vote to make English the official language of the nation, no problem...They laugh at us. They mock us. But someday they will not be able to mock any more. The Lord is in the Heavens. Have no fear. It may be as the days of Sodom. But their destruction is sure.

This nation is a fraud, and we deserve what comes of this evil.


49 posted on 05/17/2004 5:41:33 AM PDT by Luke21 (Christ is wonderful.)
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