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To: jmstein7

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You mean threads like the one above wherein great sport was made of a woman for trying to express an opinion about her inability to find a job in IT fresh out of college while the jobs still exist and are being given to foreign nationals - cutting her out of competition for jobs in her own country.
I've just highly generalized her stance and I won't redebate it here; but, she was "zotted" as a troll and abused endlessly for any excuse including her spelling rather than deal with her point. They put a muzzle on her and verbally beat her down.

I have a lot of thoughts on the subject. The more I think about it, the more angry I become. We hear that the difference between conservatives and liberals is that we have ideas. But from the actions of a number of jerks here, it appears that only certain people are allowed to have ideas and then only certain of them are allowed to be presented and only if it's ok with the elitists who will make no bones about trying to destroy you if your position threatens them. I've been the object of such attacks myself and have been here since '98. Some have called me a democrat troll. I voted for republicans and independants
Nationally since I became able to vote by law. I've a long history here speaking on conservative and religious issues.
But as soon as I say something that, though truthful, puts my president (yes MY president) in a bad light on a couple of issues, that is heresy and the elitists become the inquisitors.

People seem to either have forgotten the truism or are using it to great advantage that the Pen is mightier than the sword. A few precise words can do far more to destroy a person than burning them at the stake ever could.

The above thread is not an example of the free exchange of ideas, nor of letting a person be heard. There's no attempt to correct misperceptions. It is admitted that the person was possibly not understood; but, nobody tried. The thread is not an example of what we are supposed to be about. It is bread and circuses. Republicans believe that free trade is harming America at a very basic level. Elitists who are profitting from it in the same party have much to lose if the greater number of us finding fault with it, do away with it.

I have a great story in my life of constantly overcoming obstacles and rising to the occasion by pulling myself up by the bootstraps and relying on faith in God to help me overcome. I made it to a middle class lifestyle on the lower end of middle class after many years of struggle to find a way to do it. And now that I've reached that level in middle age, the government's policies have kicked me out of it. For daring to say such a thing regardless of my response in trying to maintain my middle class position in society, I am a heretic. I don't need anyone feeling sorry for me. I, like anyone else with any sense, just want the government to stop screwing with my life and get out of my way so I can live. I'd like the government not to pull the rug out from under me when I've worked hard to get where I am and under rough circumstances. I don't need jackasses here burning me at the stake for trying to make a point.

Look at the above thread. There are countless like it on FR and far worse. This is not the type of people we are supposed to be. This is the kind of crap that was being reviled as happening on DU when I first came here. Do I have thoughts, yes. There are Trolls at FR; but, they are the people making sport of those with ideas that they don't want to hear. Trolls are not naysayers. They, in the traditional sense of fantasy writing, are big ugly thug-like beings that carry huge clubs and kill humans for food or for sport. The Lord of the Rings shows them as mindless creatures bent on the destruction of men.

Our trolls beat on people when they say things that aren't popular with the ivory tower elitists. And to my mind after all this time, they give credibility to Ross Perot's claims which I heretofore never would have believed.. ever. Knowing the abuse I've taken for daring to speak on some subjects with a handicap and a chronic disease.. If they have no compunction in destroying people who are disadvantaged, how much less compunction do they have in going after people who aren't. It makes me sick. It paints Republicans as hypocrites and it needs to stop yesterday!


107 posted on 05/16/2004 1:50:53 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Toddsterpatriot; stands2reason

Crying towels are portable, it seems.


109 posted on 05/16/2004 1:53:25 PM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: Havoc
You mean threads like the one above wherein great sport was made of a woman for trying to express an opinion about her inability to find a job in IT fresh out of college while the jobs still exist

That woman was found to be a true troll. After some simple investigation I determined her reason for posting the crap she posted was to irritate, divide and conquer the members of this forum!

This was a correct decision and a startling example of the ignorance of some FReepers who would defend this woman rights to do this under the guise of "free speech".

This is exactly what "air America" and other liberal activists do to create "havoc" in the conservative ranks.

I now wonder about you??????????????????????????

Great job Mods!

163 posted on 05/16/2004 2:34:38 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
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To: Havoc

She was a troll. I suspect she's the same troll who posted the same yarn under a different name a while back.


165 posted on 05/16/2004 2:41:44 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Havoc

Why are you lying about that thread when it is so obvious that a) she is a Communist b) has a useless degree and c) she never once made any reference to IT, foreigners, and outsourcing.

What is your motive?

I could care less one way or the other about differing viewpoints - I just don't play.

I do, however, have a problem with people deliberately lying in order to enforce their viewpoint.


181 posted on 05/16/2004 2:50:40 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Havoc

What value is there in a whiny post asking us to spam the White House with resumes'??

Get a grip.


215 posted on 05/16/2004 3:36:12 PM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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