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To: Havoc

Why are you lying about that thread when it is so obvious that a) she is a Communist b) has a useless degree and c) she never once made any reference to IT, foreigners, and outsourcing.

What is your motive?

I could care less one way or the other about differing viewpoints - I just don't play.

I do, however, have a problem with people deliberately lying in order to enforce their viewpoint.


181 posted on 05/16/2004 2:50:40 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: mabelkitty

Free trade threads can get heated.


182 posted on 05/16/2004 2:51:39 PM PDT by cyborg
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185 posted on 05/16/2004 2:53:21 PM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: mabelkitty
Why are you lying about that thread when it is so obvious that a) she is a Communist b) has a useless degree and c) she never once made any reference to IT, foreigners, and outsourcing.

I'm not lying about the thread. I posted the bleatin thing so people could reference it. I don't see any espoused belief in communism etc. What I do see is what you yourself are continuing to do here - slandering the person with not one lick of evidence presented to back up your slander. I offered a perfectly tame alternative based on what she did say. But you know what is lacking - anyone actually asking her what she meant to clarify it. My whole point in a nutshell. She wasn't given a hearing - she was descended upon in effort to shut her up. And you sit there slandering her still with no basis in fact upon which to build.

As far as my motive. I think I made my motive plain obvious.. It's to get you people to treat others with respect and common freakin courtesy. When I came here 6 years ago, I found myself in the midst of a religious war here wherein the self same issue was at hand. Certain people were allowed to get by with saying whatever they darned pleased whether it was true, false, right or wrong. But the moment you offered the slightest resistance or disagreement, you could be banned at their whining. I was involved in the fight that saw that change. And for lack of wanting to turn this thread into a religious debate, I'll suspend from naming the religious group. But Mr. Robinson knows of my involvement in that struggle himself. And because of a great deal of patience and a willingness to understand, things changed and the playing field is pretty much level. My motive is nothing more than mutual respect and fair play. The subject involved is irrelevant.

Certain people here don't let facts or the lack of them get in the way of destroying someone who presents a viewpoint that threaten's their profit margin or their cultist mentality. They find the most convenient use of verbage to attack with whether true or not and they aim to slaughter. That isn't discussion, debate or mutual respect. That is what Ross Perot termed the Republican attack machine in all it's foulness.. something as I've said before, I couldn't believe possible from republicans. Having seen it first hand of late, I'm sickened to my core by it and sick to death of it. And for my part, I intend to do what I can to put a stop to it. I don't find that the best way to defeat liberal democrats is to act like the worst of them. Just as I don't believe the best way to defeat vile terrorists and show how better people can have it is to broadcast the evil of a few who thought it appropriate to treat them the same way Saddam treated his people. It's disgusting and it's without excuse.

217 posted on 05/16/2004 3:39:42 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: mabelkitty

If you don't wish to wade through hundreds of posts, I'll give you the rundown. Havoc is losing/lost his job as the result of outsourcing supposedly, and it's Bush's fault. Bush is supposed to tear up all the business charters of corporations that produce anything outside of America. And since he won't do that, he's not a real conservative. And those of us who don't agree with him are BushBots.


226 posted on 05/16/2004 3:46:30 PM PDT by stands2reason ( During the cola wars, France was occupied by Pepsi for six months.)
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