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1 posted on 05/15/2004 9:41:35 PM PDT by neverdem
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a Syrian and admitted Jihadist who was detained at Abu Ghraib

I have absolutely no problem with torturing a guy like this for info. .....by any means necessary.

2 posted on 05/15/2004 9:44:40 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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I'm not about to register at Washington .comPost just to find out how this story ends. Does the Syrian reveal any valuable info as a result of the tactics?


3 posted on 05/15/2004 9:45:47 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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I don't care about prisoner abuse anymore. I'm sick of it.


4 posted on 05/15/2004 9:49:07 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Shoot 'em in the desert and then you want have any prisoner abuse.)
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I don't care.

Were I only to be accepted for service...I would make them home movies and show their parents, extended families, wives, children, and home towns how well their jihadies learned obedience and the New Testament.


5 posted on 05/15/2004 9:49:30 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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and "invade his personal space."

This is from The Onion, right?

While I'm sure this sort of tactic will enrage the Chattering Class, folks in the red states will applaud it.

6 posted on 05/15/2004 9:51:52 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut
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Can't wait until Big Media convicts Saddam of something. At this point, anything will do...


7 posted on 05/15/2004 9:52:47 PM PDT by Libloather (If it really comes down to it, I'm voting Miller Genuine Draft Light...)
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It was nice while it lasted, but it's over.

Bush is a lame duck, get ready for the first Kerry administration.

8 posted on 05/15/2004 9:55:36 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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SO WHAT?! Shut up already so we can get on with winning the war, ya morons. Your attempts to bring down the president are futile. I would bet a majority of people would approve of tough methods of interrogation against terrorist scum.


9 posted on 05/15/2004 10:01:54 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: neverdem

How the heck do we expect to win a war when these handwringers whine about something like this? Human Rights Watch and an American U. Prof doesn't like it? Tough. This stuff is becoming ridiculous.


11 posted on 05/15/2004 10:07:09 PM PDT by davidtalker
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If it was a choice between one American life and a million humiliated, abused, tortured or dead suspects, then kill 'em all.

Having seen the results of terrorism first hand, both in Israel and here, there isn't anything I wouldn't sanction to protect my family and nation from these animals.


12 posted on 05/15/2004 10:09:35 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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Geneva conven. does not apply to non-uniformed terrorists.


14 posted on 05/15/2004 10:11:26 PM PDT by Waco
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So last November, they devised a special plan for his interrogation, going beyond what Army rules normally allowed.

suggests a wider circle of involvement in aggressive and potentially abusive interrogations of Iraqi detainees,

the order indicates the abuses could instead have been an outgrowth of harsh treatment that had been approved.

Although no direct links have been found between the documented abuses and orders from Washington,

"it is imperative that interrogators be provided reasonable latitude to vary their approach," depending on a detainee's background, strengths, resistance, and other factors. [The order] also explicitly demands humane treatment and requires that any dogs present during the interrogations be muzzled.

The report itself is filled with weasel words -- "could", "potentially", etc.

In other words, the Post (and their friendly leakers)could find no documentation of command authorization to abuse the prisoners...but they'd like you to think they did.

Dishonest journalism, peddling an agenda...


16 posted on 05/15/2004 10:13:41 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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" Their aim was to make the 31-year-old Syrian think his only hope in life was to talk, undermining his confidence in what they termed "the Allah factor."

I'm reading this as "they coated his swarthy ass with Oscar Meyer bacon.......

17 posted on 05/15/2004 10:16:01 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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This is another bullsh*t article from the Washington Post. Under the Law of War, a foreigner, not in uniform, captured in the war zone, can be given a "drum head" trial and shot. General George Washington did exactly that to Major John Andre. (Andre asked the military honor of being shot, rather than hanged, but was refused.)

Just consider this a frontpage ad for John Kerry, manufactured by the Post. That way, this article makes sense.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Congressmen, Humorists, Burglars -- All of Us in the Trade."

20 posted on 05/15/2004 10:21:43 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: neverdem

This is a PR disaster, no matter what.

The Bush admin should've made it clear such measures of discomfort and even humiliation would be used to save American lives.

This is a big failure by the admin.


23 posted on 05/15/2004 10:24:33 PM PDT by Monty22
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And then again it may not but if you're leaping to smear the Administration why not take the BIG JUMP as the Washington Post is doing day after day?


29 posted on 05/15/2004 10:31:39 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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Maybe I'm nutzs, but I think even the average American swing voter will look at this Abu Ghraib stuff as "yeah it was wrong, but it's not even close to what they have done to guys like Nick Berg."

I guess we'll see.


41 posted on 05/15/2004 10:54:41 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Liberals have the inverse midas touch, everything they get a hold of turns to S&*%)
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Okay, so according to the article, Army intelligence officers have a self-admitted Jihadist whom they suspect of being from Syria. They believe he has information about money, arms and foreign (Syrian) fighters coming into Iraq and murdering our troops.

Here's the "torture" they requested permission to apply: "First, the interrogators were to throw chairs and tables in the man's presence at the prison...then the police were to put a hood on his head and take him to an isolated cell through a gantlet of barking guard dogs; there, the police were to strip-search him and interrupt his sleep for three days with interrogation, barking and loud music, according to Army documents."

Oh, the humanity!

66 posted on 05/15/2004 11:39:23 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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When is this story going to stop already? They kept mentioning on SNL tonight--I don't remember one mention of Nick Berg. It's so darn typical.


74 posted on 05/16/2004 12:03:26 AM PDT by VanZant
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"First, the interrogators were to throw chairs and tables in the man's presence at the prison and "invade his personal space."

I've seen worse on the Jerry Springer show.

103 posted on 05/16/2004 3:16:59 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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