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To: NYC Republican
"She's a lying disgrace."

She’s a disgrace, but I suspect that what she’s saying is at least half true.

3 posted on 05/12/2004 7:24:42 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: elfman2
Right, and they got intel from the bad guys by showing her amateur porn flicks as well. But she was only doing her duty.
9 posted on 05/12/2004 7:28:05 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: elfman2
< She’s a disgrace, but I suspect that what she’s saying is at least half true. >

Her smile looks legit. Were I ordered to do the same thing, that smile is not what I would have portrayed. I would hope I'd have at least questioned it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm more on the Rush Limbaugh side of this, but I just don't think I would have had the stomach for it...I mean to smile about it.

16 posted on 05/12/2004 7:34:13 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: elfman2
I suspect that what she’s saying is at least half true.

If you believe in such things, there was a woman who described herself as a "transmedium" on talk radio this morning who said that this whole thing was perpetrated by several groups that paid a million dollars to a soldier with two stars on a tan uniform to stage this. She said the money is in a Swiss bank account under the soldier's girlfriend's name. I wish I had gotten her name at the beginning of the interview!

A little wild I know, but she stated that she predicted the Maryland snipers months before it happened and gave the cops the descriptions of the suspects (black males, one old, one young) that eventually got them arrested. She also stated that she does work for the Secret Service in this capacity. Could it have been Soros and his minions?

27 posted on 05/12/2004 7:45:35 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: elfman2
I suspect that what she’s saying is at least half true.

I believe the part about it working.

29 posted on 05/12/2004 7:45:36 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: elfman2
I believe she was told to do it, but I doubt if it was an order. If an NCO or junior officer told her to do it, she should have politely declined. If a field grade officer told her to do it, she should have gone up the chain of command. I hope the truth comes out.

At any rate this whole thing is overblown in my judgment. I think it's time to kill those murdering insurgent bastards and crush this rebellion.

49 posted on 05/12/2004 7:54:11 AM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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To: elfman2
She’s a disgrace, but I suspect that what she’s saying is at least half true.

We were told yesterday that the procedure is, first you inform the person giving the orders that it is not a legal order. If they continue, you refuse. That is the way it's done and everyone in the military knows it.

We out here knew that no soldier has to obey an illegal order and has a duty to report it, but we didn't know they actually have a step by step procedure for it. (Although, we SHOULD have guessed the military would have a very organized way even for refusing an order)

70 posted on 05/12/2004 8:05:17 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: elfman2
As bad as the photos look, they are nothing compared to what Saddam did, the VC did, the Japanese & Gestapo did...
I personally think that these photos were taken for use as propaganda/psy-warfare against other prisoners. The acts were degrading and shameful to Arabs. I'm no expert, but it seems to me that those people hold personal honor above life itself. To be degraded in such a manner would be worse than being hit with rubber hoses or even death itself. Showing this material to the other prisoners to show what will happen if they do not cooperate may be more effective than all of the threats.
Let's face it - the whole world knows that Americans play fair even when their enemies don't. It's time to take the gloves off and make some examples. Before you nail me, let me say that I am not condoning torture - all I am saying is that what I have seen is degradation, not torture.
116 posted on 05/12/2004 8:58:32 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that Democrats win elections.)
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To: elfman2
She’s a disgrace, but I suspect that what she’s saying is at least half true.

But isn't half a truth still be a lie?
I suppose she was ordered to smile in the pictures too?
182 posted on 05/12/2004 12:14:47 PM PDT by newcats
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To: elfman2
She’s a disgrace, but I suspect that what she’s saying is at least half true.

I agree.

189 posted on 05/12/2004 12:49:52 PM PDT by Frapster (Goofball extraordinaire.)
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To: elfman2
I suspect that what she’s saying is at least half true....

We'd all like to believe that she's a better person than the one we see in the pix. That desire goes out the window with the revelations today of her multiple partner sex pix from the same time/place.

She is a disgrace, all on her own.

210 posted on 05/12/2004 3:39:29 PM PDT by wtc911 (keep one eye on that candle....)
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