Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]

NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

[Diddle E. Squat]

See post #636

[World'sGoneInsane]

I wonder where he got his contract from...

[monkeywrench]

"It was a caller into C-Span Washington Journal that was complaining about the decision to hire contractors to do interrogation work, but the callers complaint was that these people are not properly screened and could possibly belong to a terrorist group."

Like the dnc.

[TexKat]

Take a look at the 3 Centcom briefing excerpts that I posted at post #508, and see if you come to the conclusion that detainee abuse is being discussed.

[McGavin999]

The leaders of our troops who lost control of MI procedures will pay the political price. Why the big deal?

And just who would those leaders be TP?

[World'sGoneInsane]

Ping...See post 636.

[Quix]

McGavin999

Please see my post 625.

Seems I miss directed my comment. Sorry.

Thanks mass55th

[EternalVigilance]

It's posts like your #636 that make FR invaluable.

[World'sGoneInsane]

Bump

[cyncooper]

Thank you...over 600 replies here and I want to read this whole thread soon. Thanks for directing my attention to a very interesting point I wouldn't have gotten to for awhile if I'd just decided to slog through.

Very interesting.

[McGavin999]

Yes, I noticed. The funny thing is, the law of unintended consequences is bouncing back at them so fast they don't even see it coming.

The people are beginning to rally around Rumsfeld, I think he's actually going to come out of this stronger than he was before. Funny how these things work out.

Oh yes, and the photos of the perps have been spread around the world. That assures a death sentence for them, not from our military courts, but from the Muslim fanatics who will make it their lifes work to hunt these people down and get revenge.

[TexKat]

A journalist was on the Washington Journal this morning and stated that some of the other photos, etc. that have not been revealed to us are already being shown over in some Arab countries.

[Mo1]

Are they supposed to be property of the military, since they were apparently confiscated? Shouldn't they be used as evidence again those involved?

I'm not sure about the orginal owner of them

But they are part of a criminal investigation .. so for now .. that is the owner of them

[Oztrich Boy]

OK You've posted a faked picture

That woman... Ms Lewinsky hasn't been that thin since junior high.

[jellybean]

Playing old films of Jennine Garafolo's, replaying Shirillary's screaming rants over and over again, playing Barbra Streisand records, making them watch reruns of Rosie O'Donnell's show.

You're one sick b@st@rd for even suggesting such inhumane treatment of POW's!!!! Next you'll be recommending they be forced to attend a JF'nK rally...sheeeesh...have some compassion for these poor, innocent Iraqis who were guilty of nothing more than failure to pay parking tickets.

[Mo1]

If we here at FR can reveal the what we have, just imagine how easy it will be for those in the know to get to the bottom of this

I'm still reading .. but has anyone asked why the NYT decided to out Hack for this???

Something doesn't smell right

[TexKat]

Iraq is an American National Guard/Reservist wake up call - uniforms with no balls and no gut.

And civilian prison interrogator contractors with no name tags.

[subedei]

"1. a. To give aid or information to an enemy of; commit treason against: betray one's country. b. To deliver into the hands of an enemy in violation of a trust or allegiance 2. To be false or disloyal to: betrayed their cause; betray one's better nature. 3. To divulge in a breach of confidence: betray a secret.

Oh, looks like we have a DOUBLE winner"


Again you come with the illogical position. "1. a. To give aid or information to an enemy of; commit treason against: betray one's country.". So this would apply to ANYONE or ANY organization who reports ANYTHING that could possibly be used against us? What a ridiculous implied assertion.. And how exactly did Hackworth commit treason against or betray his country? Nothing in this definition even remotely describes what Hackworth did. You still fail to respond to my previous points and questions, how about responding to them instead of making illogical and unfounded one line assertions of guilt?

"2. To be false or disloyal to: betrayed their cause; betray one's better nature.". Again, where did Hackworth do any of this? If you actually believe that Hackworth is guilty of betraying his country for merely releasing photos showing illegal and inhumane abuse to try to bring attention to it, THEN WHY HAVEN'T YOU BOTHERED TO CALL THE ALLEGED ACTIONS OF THE GUARDS AND OTHERS INVOLVED WHO BEAT, RAPED, ABUSED, TORTURED AND MURDERED PRISONERS BETRAYALS??????? Why haven't you compared them to benedict arnold, why haven't you stated that they were "going to be responsible for the death and injury of thousands", WHY HAVEN'T YOU CALLED THEM TRAITORS?!?

As I said before and to which you had no response:

"Since when is our soldiers moral preferrable to doing what is LEGAL, and what is RIGHT??? And why exactly would this have a bad affect on moral? Maybe because this puts their lives, their sacrifice, their honor, and that of everyone who gave their lives over there in a bad light? Why should such shame be hidden or glossed over? Are you implying that they should feel shame for dishonorable actions they themselves had no hand in? If I were them I imagine I would, even though I should not. Sorry, rule of law, basic fundamental human rights and our very freedoms which they fight for DEMAND that this subject be displayed openly and honestly, and that it be dealt with in the same manner.

Your previous uncivil and fallacious comments still call for a decent response..."

If you sidestep or ignore my comments again I can only assume that it is due to intellectual cowardice or just plain laziness on your part.

[EternalVigilance]

Just as a tiny flaw in a diamond is what gives it its beauty, this episode, in my opinion, merely serves to highlight the honorable, courageous, stellar job that has been done by 99.9999999999999999% of our wonderful troops.

It also highlights the difference between us and the Islamo-nazis. Their atrocities are encouraged by their religious and political leaders, and are the rule, not the exception. The contrary is true with our forces.

Our whole culture condemns these acts. They are the exception that proves the rule: Americans are decent and honorable, in peace and in war.

[World'sGoneInsane]

Here's a picture of some relatives looking at a picture.

Whoever orchestrated this should be hung out to dry, at the very least.