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Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]
NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 05/07/2004 11:02:41 PM PDT by saquin

CUMBERLAND, Md., May 7 — Ivan Frederick was distraught. His son, an Army reservist turned prison guard in Iraq, was under investigation earlier this year for mistreating prisoners, and photographs of the abuse were beginning to circulate among soldiers and military investigators.

So the father went to his brother-in-law, William Lawson, who was afraid that reservists like his nephew would end up taking the fall for what he considered command lapses, Mr. Lawson recounted in an interview on Friday. He knew whom to turn to: David Hackworth, a retired colonel and a muckraker who was always willing to take on the military establishment. Mr. Lawson sent an e-mail message in March to Mr. Hackworth's Web site and got a call back from an associate there in minutes, he said.

That e-mail message would put Mr. Lawson in touch with the CBS News program "60 Minutes II" and help set in motion events that led to the public disclosure of the graphic photographs and an international crisis for the Bush administration.

It is still not entirely clear who leaked the photos and how they got into the hands of a "60 Minutes II" producer. What is clear, however, is that the furor over the photos is unlikely to dissipate any time soon.

And it may only get worse.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld disclosed Friday that there were "many more photos" and videos of abuse that have not yet become public. And he acknowledged in Senate testimony that the military might have mishandled the affair by not alerting members of Congress and the public to the growing seriousness of the military's investigation into the abuses before the images became public on "60 Minutes II."

"I wish I had been able to convey to them the gravity of this before we saw it in the media," Mr. Rumsfeld said.

The irony, Mr. Lawson said, is that the public spectacle might have been avoided if the military and the federal government had been responsive to his claims that his nephew was simply following orders. Mr. Lawson said he sent letters to 17 members of Congress about the case earlier this year, with virtually no response, and that he ultimately contacted Mr. Hackworth's Web site out of frustration, leading him to cooperate with a consultant for "60 Minutes II."

"The Army had the opportunity for this not to come out, not to be on 60 Minutes," he said. "But the Army decided to prosecute those six G.I.'s because they thought me and my family were a bunch of poor, dirt people who could not do anything about it. But unfortunately, that was not the case."

Many of the incriminating photographs appear to have been taken on a digital camera by a soldier in the 372nd Military Police Company who is now facing a court-martial. From there, they appear to have circulated among military personnel in Iraq via e-mail and computer disks, and some may have found their way to family members in the United States.

But there are still numerous unresolved questions about the photographs. One is why they were taken. Some officials suggest that soldiers wanted the photographs as souvenirs, but some relatives said they believed that the photographs were going to be shown to other prisoners to pressure their cooperation.

Then there is the question of how the photographs became public.

Lt. Gen. Lance Smith, deputy commander of forces in the region, testifying Friday before Congress, said he was still unclear how that happened. "It was a surprise that it got out," General Smith said.

Military officials were aware of two disks with photographs on them that were part of continuing investigations, one in Iraq and another in Washington, he said.

"That was the limit of the pictures, and we thought we had them all," General Smith said.

Producers at "60 Minutes II" are not saying exactly how they got the photographs. But Jeff Fager, the executive producer, said, "We heard about someone who was outraged about it and thought that the public should know about it."

Digital cameras have become so ubiquitous in the military that many relatives of personnel in the 372nd and other units in Iraq said they routinely received photographs by e-mail. But the photographs were usually tourist-type photographs of smiling sons and daughters, relatives said.

Officials said that the photographs showing psychological or physical abuse numbered in the hundreds, perhaps more than 1,000, with Mr. Rumsfeld hinting Friday that more may come out.

Among some prison personnel in Iraq, the photographs were apparently an open secret. "Some soldiers in Iraq had them — I'm hearing that soldiers were showing them to everybody," Mr. Lawson said. He said he did not have the original photos and did not turn them over to anyone.

The photographs have now turned soldiers like Mr. Lawson's nephew, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick, and Pfc. Lynndie R. England into graphic symbols of military abuse. But for Mr. Lawson, they are evidence of a complete breakdown in training and authority in the Iraqi prison system.

He shared his frustration in his March 23 e-mail message to Mr. Hackworth's Web site, writing: "We have contacted the Red Cross, Congress both parties, Bill O'Reilly and many others. Nobody wants to touch this."

Less than five weeks later, images of his nephew — interviewed on "60 Minutes II" with Mr. Lawson's help — would be shown around the world. Far from untouchable, the story would become unavoidable.


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To: onyx
All the sordid details of the sexual abuse of Iraqi prisoners reminds me of the leather restraint "sex toys" discovered in Congressman Condit's Washington DC apartment during the investigation of his young mistress's disappearance.
Where were the congressional hearings into his abusive behavior towards government interns? Oh, that wasn't so bad... it's not like she ended up dead or anything ....
201 posted on 05/08/2004 12:30:30 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: McGavin999
Started in early october, Hillary may have gotten wind of it when she was there for Thanksgiving. I'm almost afraid to say any more about this until the facts come out. Whoever was running the prison should be put in the brigg. Weird how two women are at the center of this so far.
202 posted on 05/08/2004 12:30:50 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: onyx
Thanks for the link... I have known for a while that Hackworth was no fan of Rumsfeld. Most field commanders have very few kind words for their civilian leaders. But Hackworth seemed to have gone over the edge during the lead up to the Iraq War. Maybe it would be wise to see if Hackworth has any connections to Scott Ritter or any of the companies that were on the "Take" in the U.N. "Oil for Food" Program
203 posted on 05/08/2004 12:30:50 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: A CA Guy
She was a belligerent tomboy who lived in a trailer park with her mom. Went into the armed forces, carried this out and is now pregnant.

While I agree she is the one that is in very real danger here. You can bet your ass that there is a Fatwah already issued to kill her. She may deserve it BUT she is the one that "Muslim honor" cannot go unanswered. The very fact that she is now the most famous face on earth is a crime itself. What she did was bad but what will happen to her will be worse.

204 posted on 05/08/2004 12:30:51 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: Fledermaus
I am always willing and eager to engage in stimulating intellectual discussions.Unfortunately,mail is where that is to be found.Oh well,we band of interesting people can at least perk up a thread or two.

I am delighted and not at all surprised to hear how well your real life endeavors are going.BRAVO!

And you owe me a letter.:-)

205 posted on 05/08/2004 12:31:31 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: garandgal
They don't " think"; that's the whole point!
206 posted on 05/08/2004 12:33:34 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: ValerieUSA
If Maplethorpe had taken those photos he would have had an NEA funded exhibit in all the "better" Art houses.
207 posted on 05/08/2004 12:33:37 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: McGavin999
"She was in Iraq just after Thanksgiving. Remember, she spent TG day in Afghanistan and then went to Iraq AFTER President Bush's big surprise. She was in Baghdad and did a little traveling around. I wonder if she met with Karpinski (the woman general)"

I bet she did. LOL I wonder who can look into her travel logs?

208 posted on 05/08/2004 12:34:22 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1
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To: nopardons
Yes, I do owe you a letter (and private is where I should remain since the average poster her is a moron)...

You also owe me an actual E-Mail! So I guess we are even! lol

209 posted on 05/08/2004 12:34:49 AM PDT by Fledermaus
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To: Fledermaus
I'm very glad to hear you are doing well, Now lets work on restoring your optimism :-)
210 posted on 05/08/2004 12:34:57 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
Obviously;except that Graner has a paper trail of abusive behavior to his ex wife.
211 posted on 05/08/2004 12:35:25 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: John Lenin
>>>...Weird how two women are at the center of this so far.

Quite. I wonder how log it's going to be before the pro & anti "women in the military" crowd get into this fray.
212 posted on 05/08/2004 12:35:34 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach, and liberals are the sand in your swimsuit that can't be washed away.)
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To: nopardons
nopardons, this whole year has been "interesting times". I don't know about you, but I'm exhausted ;o)
213 posted on 05/08/2004 12:35:44 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: McGavin999
I'm reading so many stories...I just know some twisted individuals and lack of oversight,fuzzy "who's in charge" stories."softening up" vs preparing the prisoner,drunkenness,one was a corrections officer accused of beating and stalking his wife,video taping her surreptitiously,etc.,(the boyfriend of the one who is pregnant)
I think lack of command responsibility,sloppy discipline,overcrowding,...just a bunch of bad apples who dishonored the uniform.They hurt everyone in the military by their ineptness and criminal acts.
214 posted on 05/08/2004 12:36:00 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Dolphy
Amongst damned DEMS and OUR media!
215 posted on 05/08/2004 12:36:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: MJY1288
I wouldn't mind that! Thanks for caring! It's almost impossible but I appreciate the effort. ;-)
216 posted on 05/08/2004 12:36:42 AM PDT by Fledermaus
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To: Fledermaus
(and private is where I should remain since the average poster her -sic- is a moron)

Ironically, it takes an arrogant moron to post that publicly.

217 posted on 05/08/2004 12:38:07 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Texasforever
Depending on the level of her crimes, the US military might hang her and complete the Fatwah for the muslims here.

If she only played mind games and the sadistic sex stuff, she will get some prison. If she is part of the far worse stuff said to be coming out, look for death by hanging or firing squad.
218 posted on 05/08/2004 12:38:26 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Why put inexperienced young people in charge of this type of detail ? Makes no sense to me so far, someone really messed up bigtime.
219 posted on 05/08/2004 12:39:04 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
There were three women soldiers arrested and three men. The BG was also a woman.
220 posted on 05/08/2004 12:40:25 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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