Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]

NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

[ValerieUSA]

All the sordid details of the sexual abuse of Iraqi prisoners reminds me of the leather restraint "sex toys" discovered in Congressman Condit's Washington DC apartment during the investigation of his young mistress's disappearance.
Where were the congressional hearings into his abusive behavior towards government interns? Oh, that wasn't so bad... it's not like she ended up dead or anything ....

[John Lenin]

Started in early october, Hillary may have gotten wind of it when she was there for Thanksgiving. I'm almost afraid to say any more about this until the facts come out. Whoever was running the prison should be put in the brigg. Weird how two women are at the center of this so far.

[MJY1288]

Thanks for the link... I have known for a while that Hackworth was no fan of Rumsfeld. Most field commanders have very few kind words for their civilian leaders. But Hackworth seemed to have gone over the edge during the lead up to the Iraq War. Maybe it would be wise to see if Hackworth has any connections to Scott Ritter or any of the companies that were on the "Take" in the U.N. "Oil for Food" Program

[Texasforever]

She was a belligerent tomboy who lived in a trailer park with her mom. Went into the armed forces, carried this out and is now pregnant.

While I agree she is the one that is in very real danger here. You can bet your ass that there is a Fatwah already issued to kill her. She may deserve it BUT she is the one that "Muslim honor" cannot go unanswered. The very fact that she is now the most famous face on earth is a crime itself. What she did was bad but what will happen to her will be worse.

[nopardons]

I am always willing and eager to engage in stimulating intellectual discussions.Unfortunately,mail is where that is to be found.Oh well,we band of interesting people can at least perk up a thread or two.

I am delighted and not at all surprised to hear how well your real life endeavors are going.BRAVO!

And you owe me a letter.:-)

[nopardons]

They don't " think"; that's the whole point!

[Texasforever]

If Maplethorpe had taken those photos he would have had an NEA funded exhibit in all the "better" Art houses.

[GottaLuvAkitas1]

"She was in Iraq just after Thanksgiving. Remember, she spent TG day in Afghanistan and then went to Iraq AFTER President Bush's big surprise. She was in Baghdad and did a little traveling around. I wonder if she met with Karpinski (the woman general)"

I bet she did. LOL I wonder who can look into her travel logs?

[Fledermaus]

Yes, I do owe you a letter (and private is where I should remain since the average poster her is a moron)...

You also owe me an actual E-Mail! So I guess we are even! lol

[MJY1288]

I'm very glad to hear you are doing well, Now lets work on restoring your optimism :-)

[nopardons]

Obviously;except that Graner has a paper trail of abusive behavior to his ex wife.

[Keith in Iowa]

>>>...Weird how two women are at the center of this so far.

Quite. I wonder how log it's going to be before the pro & anti "women in the military" crowd get into this fray.

[McGavin999]

nopardons, this whole year has been "interesting times". I don't know about you, but I'm exhausted ;o)

[MEG33]

I'm reading so many stories...I just know some twisted individuals and lack of oversight,fuzzy "who's in charge" stories."softening up" vs preparing the prisoner,drunkenness,one was a corrections officer accused of beating and stalking his wife,video taping her surreptitiously,etc.,(the boyfriend of the one who is pregnant)
I think lack of command responsibility,sloppy discipline,overcrowding,...just a bunch of bad apples who dishonored the uniform.They hurt everyone in the military by their ineptness and criminal acts.

[nopardons]

Amongst damned DEMS and OUR media!

[Fledermaus]

I wouldn't mind that! Thanks for caring! It's almost impossible but I appreciate the effort. ;-)

[ValerieUSA]

(and private is where I should remain since the average poster her -sic- is a moron)

Ironically, it takes an arrogant moron to post that publicly.

[A CA Guy]

Depending on the level of her crimes, the US military might hang her and complete the Fatwah for the muslims here.

If she only played mind games and the sadistic sex stuff, she will get some prison. If she is part of the far worse stuff said to be coming out, look for death by hanging or firing squad.

[John Lenin]

Why put inexperienced young people in charge of this type of detail ? Makes no sense to me so far, someone really messed up bigtime.

[McGavin999]

There were three women soldiers arrested and three men. The BG was also a woman.