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To: MACVSOG68
If you can accept as moral, those pictures all over the news, the video of a chopper using civilians for target practice, and now possible prisoner torture

Don't put words in my mouth -- I most certainly find the actions of these soldiers both abhorrent damaging to our efforts over there. And I condemned them in my first post (although I recommended another course of action).

These aren't prisoners of war, they're terrorists. The major combat ops were over relatively quickly, and now we're attempting to rebuild the country. These people aren't attempting to defeat the U.S. military, they're attempting to stifle our efforts at bringing peace to the region. That's terrorism, and terrorists should not be dealt with as if they were legitimate combatants worthy of Geneva Convention protections.

47 posted on 05/04/2004 12:57:21 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
>>These aren't prisoners of war, they're terrorists.

Bob Baer has said the vast majority were rounded up in random searches and roadblocks. Or turned in by others.

He mentioned that by one estimate over 60% were/are innocent. As did Taguba's report.

He said the most egregious thing was that the Army had no procedures to have a process that determined the innocence or value of a detainee.

52 posted on 05/04/2004 1:03:11 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Mr. Mojo
Don't put words in my mouth -- I most certainly find the actions of these soldiers both abhorrent damaging to our efforts over there. And I condemned them in my first post (although I recommended another course of action). These aren't prisoners of war, they're terrorists. The major combat ops were over relatively quickly, and now we're attempting to rebuild the country. These people aren't attempting to defeat the U.S. military, they're attempting to stifle our efforts at bringing peace to the region. That's terrorism, and terrorists should not be dealt with as if they were legitimate combatants worthy of Geneva Convention protections.

You have confused me. You find the actions of the soldiers abhorrent, but accept executions? And if you were in charge of a prisoner compound, your instructions to the guards regarding the treatment of prisoners would be....?

55 posted on 05/04/2004 1:05:07 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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