Rush: Outrage Over Iraqi Prisoner Torture Comparable to Outrage Over Tailhook Scandal

Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | 5/4/2004 | myself

[Pyro7480]

As he was closing out his show today, Rush Limbaugh stated that the media hype over the Iraqi prisoner torture and one reporter's comparison of the torture to Saddam's regime (and the media's lack of outrage over it) is comparable to the media hype over Tailhook scandal, and the comparable lack of outrage of the storming of the Waco compound.

[January24th]

"Waco, Ruby Ridge and Tail hook did not impact a population that has a thousand year long memory."

Well, Hon, they just haven't met Nintendo yet. Talk about impact! Iraqi teens are playing the U.S. Army's video games, where the bad guys are Arabs. They feel like it's wrong, but they can't help it. I give this outrage maybe a dozen years if we win the peace and import U.S. television, computers and I-pods.

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[Eva]

I think that you got that backwards the acts of humiliation and degradation were done before the interrogations, in an effort to soften the resolves of men who were once willing to die to kill others. The outrage is that the guards ENJOYED what they were doing and photographed it. It is the photographed enjoyment that makes the treatment barbarous, not the specific acts. The prisoners and their supporters are guilty of much more barbaric acts.

[JLS]

"For the time being."
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Of course IF we want to win this war, we have to be willing to do what it takes. It took some awful fighting and nuclear bombs to win the Pacific Theatre in WWII. If we are not willing, then we will not exist eventually.

[jojodamofo]

Heh heh. But the funny thing is that Canadians have an incredibly deep inferiority complex. I can just imagine the fury of the typical, insecure, socialist Canadian finding your intelligent, articulate posts. Not only do you put them in their place, but you deepen their inferiority complex by misspelling the name repeatedly. HA!

[Hoosier-Daddy]

And making Iraq more dangerous to our troops.

[Mr. Mojo]

And if you were in charge of a prisoner compound, your instructions to the guards regarding the treatment of prisoners would be....?

I would positively determine which prisoners were terrorists and which were the unfortunate innocents that were picked up in random roadblocks and searches (as swarthyguy mentioned above). I'd release the innocents, detain the ones I was unsure of (without humiliating and degrading them), and execute the terrorists.

[pickemuphere]

Karpinski looks like a transgendered Nazi. Send her to military prison for a couple hundred years, and I'll consider the score settled.

These idiots have done untold damage to our ethos in the ME.

[Born Conservative]

Agreed; this involves a small group of our troops, and there actions are not reflective of the vast majority of our troops. I also agree with Rush that the pics of the charred bodies in Fallujah are much more inflammatory than these "torture" pics.

BTW, glad to hear you escaped the "guy-on-guy action" during Hell Week!

[RightWhale]

We have done this before, and would do it again if we were sufficiently scared. Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and not much sleep lost.

[mudblood]

"60% were/are innocent"

Was this 60 percent of the people in the photos? Or just, in general? My belief - and I could be wrong (doubt it) - is that the prisoners in the photos were the bottom of the barrel. Now, if these prisoners were but simple fishermen earning 2 cents a year for their 30 children, then the soldiers should be forced to walk naked through Baghdad with a sign, in Arabic, reading "I'm an idiot, please pelt me with camel dung", and then put in jail for a few years. That's another problem with liberalism - the punishment never fits the crime.

Otherwise, once again, torture, humiliation and the like are necessary for fast, reliable intelligence.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

Let's micro-manage the war. That always works. /sarcasm off

[swarthyguy]

MicroManagement? That was Falluja. Let's stay on topic here.

[PISANO]

If some soldiers did it for kicks, that would be a different matter

Not only do I agree that the bozos who did these sophmoric acts be court-martialed but that everyone in the COC up to and including the one star General be relieved of duty and reprimanded accordingly.

While I could care less what happened to the ENEMY I do care what happens to our MILITARY and WHAT these few did BRINGS disgrace on our honorable TROOPS. And as was long ago when I served, the media will do all in it's power to run with a story like this and embelish it as far as possible.

Case in point. The MEDIA is already calling this incident a SYSTEMATIC problem with our MILITARY CULTURE. Of course they mean THIS HORRIBLE CULTURE is being fed from the very top. SecDef and the POTUS!!

[CyberAnt]

Name calling says more about you than it does about Rush.

[dougherty]

Rush was right on target today. Thank you, Rush!

[Pukin Dog]

I have not read through this thread, and I doubt I will. As the only Freeper that I know of who was actually at Tailhook, I will only make two comments with respect to the similarity between Tailhook and this episode.

First, like with Tailhook, the Media is out of control, trying to turn a minor and rare incident into a major reflection on the entire Military.

Second, like with Tailhook, the female officers involved are again thinking only of themselves, and not of the greater good of the Military, trying to blame others while ignoring their own responsibility for what occurred.

[MACVSOG68]

I would positively determine which prisoners were terrorists and which were the unfortunate innocents that were picked up in random roadblocks and searches (as swarthyguy mentioned above). I'd release the innocents, detain the ones I was unsure of (without humiliating and degrading them), and execute the terrorists.

Well, that's a step up. In your first post, you assumed them all to be terrorists. But then there's that old problem again. If they weren't executed when captured, what gives you the right to do so? And do you believe that anyone in the chain of command gave such authorization? If not, would you still do so? We don't even have to get into the degree of terrorism acts they may have committed. It's very easy to say "if they were executed instead of humiliated, we wouldn't have a problem", but it appears we just may.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

The Buck Stops here is one thing. Expecting Bush and Rumsfeld to know what's going on in a prison in Iraq is another. Now that the news is out, the investigation will take its course and corrective actions will be implemented.

[redhawk]

Rush is totally wrong on this. He's sounding like a political hack.