I am starting to think going to Iraq was a mistake

MMI | 4/30/04 | MDP

[Light Speed]

Actually..this is all far from being a worthless venture.

Iran has been trying to build nuclear weapons....Iran has proxy terror orgs all over the mideast and beyond.
Sleazy House of Saud is hanging by a thread..nearly 80% of their population are for Osamma and company.

Kurds were soon to break away from Iraq..here the reality would have undone the Turks...and that would have meant what to the Caspain oil/gas flow....the pipleines to the *Stans..the oil/gas to China.

England has vast holdings via BP Oil in the Gulf.
England has antied in with America...Brothers against fascim and communism since WW-2.

The Gulf states do not have a fluid/cohesive military that has been tried in Battle..even though they posesses modern technology..they would collapse against Aggressor Iraq with no help from America,England and other coalition forces.

Oil is the lubricant of the fiscal machinery of our world...this alone dictates that Iraq cannot be left to Saddams scheming..terror orgs..or to Iran.

It was only a matter of time before Iran subterfuged Iraq..had Saddam killed..and set up Lebanon on the Euphrates.

[antaresequity]

the general publics acceptance of war casualties that's changed.

As callous as this may sound, I think the American public puts far to much emphasis on human death. People die. Everyone dies. Its just a matter of when and where. Death is guaranteed.

This country has lost its stomach for real death, yet seems to possess an insatiable appetite for death in fantasy. As a culture we cannot get enough of it in print, film, and music.

We appear to have become a culture that prefers fantasy at the expense of reality. It is as if we are culture in denial.

This is now the alternative reality...the parallel universe we live in.

Hollywood stars and producers peddle a never ending stream of death and misery, yet these same peddlers are the most vociferous opponents to the war; real death.

The contemptuous comments of Sgt Barnes in the Oliver Stones 'Platoon' sums it up with delicious irony: "Death? What do you guys know about it?".

Look around you...look at the youth of this country...our future leaders. The only thing they know of death is that its not real; its a fantasy.

When I look at WWII and its enormous cost in terms of human life, I can reconcile the tragedy knowing that death is part of life.

We as a nation have gone soft, and have forgotten that sometimes people have to die, so that others may live, and though tragic as it is, its normal.

[antaresequity]

See Post #323

[anonymous_user]

Thanks for the great reply. I'm unable to find your source for the Administration saying there's no Al Qaeda link though. Please post a URL if you have one, I'd like to read that.

As far as evidence linking Al Qaeda to the Spain bombings, the Al Qaeda link to the Madrid bombing was reinforced today: http://www.iht.com/articles/517862.html

Also, from Newsmax: "Al-Zarqawi ... has been linked to a series of terrorist plots, including the attack in Madrid last month, the bombing of the U.N. compound in Baghdad last summer, and the 2002 killing of an American diplomat in Jordan." -- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/27/164917.shtml

"Excerpts from the WMD conspirator's confession broadcast by ABC's "Nightline" late Monday show that the WMD plot was planned and trained for in Iraq more than a year before the U.S. invasion, with the terror suspect admitting, "After the fall of Afghanistan, I met Zarqawi again in Iraq.""

I've yet to hear any solid denials that Al Qaeda was involved in the Madrid bombing, and people have confessed to Al Qaeda's involvement through arrests or police shoot-outs (bombings) in Spain. Why wouldn't they say something if they weren't involved?

[Valin]

If true, the fight should be focused within the borders of the 48 contiguous states, IMO.
WRONG. The best place to fight them is over there.

That battle is not going our way.</i?
Could you name the last terroist attack that happened inside Amerca?

[Valin]

That battle is not going our way.?
Could you name the last terroist attack that happened inside Amerca?

Memo to self: Close your tags you moron!

[Senator Pardek]

I knew it was a mistake from Day One - but few listen to ol' Pardek.

[gunnut78]

My advice?

Quit watching CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, and MSNBC. Get your news from a more reliable source. They portray the whole country as a war zone... in all reality it's only several cities!!

Have Faith!

[NYC GOP Chick]

As I said I am an avid supporter of the plan to bring an oasis of freedom and liberty to the 12th century toilet that is the middle east.

I'm an avid supporter of doing everything possible to make sure that despots and terrorists from that region can't hurt us ever again. If we somehow manage to successfully impose democracy on them, so much the better.

[Valin]

If we somehow manage to successfully impose democracy on them, so much the better.

We can't impose democracy on them. All we can do is give them a shot at it. Even that is going to take a while, BUT if we are successful....it's a whole new ballgame in the mideast.

[william clark]

Wow, you just demonstrated how far behind the curve you are on this subject, both factually and analytically.

I guess Saddam just dropped leaflets on the Kurds, huh?

Evidence is mounting that the biggest reason we haven't found more in the way of WMDs is that while the UN was playing their delaying game so as to not lose their backhanded income, Saddam had plenty of opportunity to hide them real well and send them across the border into Syria. But then, you'll have to actually keep up with the news to realize this, which you obviously haven't.

[iconoclast]

The old regime is dead.

Oops! One of the old regime's generals was just resurrected and we have turned Fallujah over to him!

[iconoclast]

Madras' ?????

[WhiteGuy]

I think you might have missed my point.

I was referring to this definition of "terrorism"

"Terrorism, being any efforts against US freedom"

My point was, quite simply, that our rights and freedoms are under attack right here in the USA.

The war is being waged upon US by the very people we hire to run our governments.

And we're losing.

If a true war on terror is to be waged, based on this definition, it must be won HERE.

[iconoclast]

I don't believe the Iraqi people as a whole don't want freedom

These barbarians have no more conception of freedom than of the taste of a ham sandwich.

If their oil disappeared tomorrow they'd be back to defecating in the sand and fighting with the tribe at the next oasis.

[iconoclast]

Bingo!

That's it in a nutshell.

[iconoclast]

if freedom takes root there its over for tehran, ryiahd and damascus.

Uh huh. That's about as likely as an olive tree taking root in my backyard.