[AnalogReigns]

The puppet arguement regarding God and His sovereignty doesn't work. The reason? God, and his relationship to us and all His creation is unique, unlike any other relationship we can even imagine.

When a decision must be made touching you and another human person, only one person's will can prevail, yours or theirs. Their freedom must bend to your's or visa versa. However God is not like any other person...He made and sustains everything that is. Scripture clearly teaches God is fully in charge--nothing is outside His control--but also that creatures are free and responsible.

How that works? I don't understand. However, being finite, its not unreasonable to expect an infinite being and how He works is not understandable to a finite being.

There is not a logical contradition here, because God is not like anyone or anthing else--and scripture clearly teaches God's sovereign free will does not contradict our finite free will--as we are made in His image.

We do what we want...and ultimately...that will work into what He wants--and will be used to glorify Himself, and work to our good too, if we "...know God and are called according to His purpose" (Romans 8:28)

[orionblamblam]

> its not unreasonable to expect an
infinite being and how He works is not understandable to a finite being.

Not strictly true, as understandign of the infinite is certainly possible; but I'll let it stand.

> God is not like anyone or anthing else

The basic arguement is that God's mind is well and truly "alien." Wholly incomprehensible, his ways are mystery.

Sounds like chaos.