1 posted on
04/27/2004 8:39:38 AM PDT by
ninenot
To: american colleen; sinkspur; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; ...
About as clear, concise, and straightforward as one can be on the topic.
2 posted on
04/27/2004 8:40:53 AM PDT by
ninenot
(Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
To: dubyaismypresident; hobbes1
ping
3 posted on
04/27/2004 8:43:31 AM PDT by
xsmommy
To: ninenot
"Grave sin" in this case simply means objectively evil conduct of a serious nature. Hmmm...Excuse me, Bishop O'Malley, but do you consider casting a vote against a ban on partial birth abortion objectively evil conduct? Or maybe, even, outrageously evil?
6 posted on
04/27/2004 8:50:01 AM PDT by
grellis
(Mi sento male. Ho fatto un'indigestione!)
To: ninenot
As I wrote on another thread.....
Memo to John F'n Kerry: "Hey Johney boy, this means *YOU*!"
7 posted on
04/27/2004 8:50:09 AM PDT by
GOP_1900AD
(Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
To: ninenot
No need to parse anything, if you support killing them on the way out, you can not be a practicing Catholic.
8 posted on
04/27/2004 8:53:49 AM PDT by
jwalsh07
To: ninenot; .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Annie03; Antoninus; ...
If the Church's pastors were to make it clear to politicians that abortion is truly a non-negotiable question and one on which they were prepared to "go to the mat," they would exert considerable moral, and political, pressure on all politicians to give this moral issue the weight it deserves. Sometimes a prophetic voice is needed to shake people out of their moral lethargy, especially when people have come to accept as "normal" something which by rights should provoke moral outrage.
If publicly supporting abortion doesn't constitute a sufficient pastoral reason to justify the denial of Holy Communion, it is hard to imagine when recourse to this measure would be appropriate.
What more can be said about this, or discussed, or debated?!? Between Cardinal Arinze's statements last week and this interview, any lame excuses offered by the US cardinals and bishops are revealed for what they truly are: cooperation with evil.
12 posted on
04/27/2004 9:20:54 AM PDT by
Polycarp IV
(For the liberal elites, the only "good" Catholic is a bad Catholic. - Father Neuhaus)
To: ninenot
Furthermore, the mere magnitude of the crisis -- now more than 40 million planned deaths of unborn children in the United States alone since the legalization of abortion in 1973 -- is sufficient to make abortion the greatest social justice issue of all time.Here is what this should actually say:
More than 40 million planned deaths of unborn democrat voters in the United States.
Does anyone think the "right to choice" crowd would react any differently?
14 posted on
04/27/2004 9:28:51 AM PDT by
Arrowhead1952
(A vote for kerry or any other RAT, is a vote for the terrorists.)
To: ninenot
Christos Voskrese!History tends to be severe in its judgments of Church leaders who failed to use all the means at their disposal to put an end to egregious sins against human rights.
There are more than a couple of really "nice" (but thin skinned) Priests and Bishops for whom this quote should be hanging from their office wall.
15 posted on
04/27/2004 11:02:46 AM PDT by
TotusTuus
(Voistinu Voskrese!)
To: ninenot
It's encouraging to see Catholic pro-abort pols criticized. In today's uncertain times amid the awareness of secularists trashing of our culture, the climate is more conducive to enriching public life through espousing religious principles.
Uet, we need to be aware of the "Clinon Legacy, wherein pols make themselves into "victims of unocmpassionate conservatives."
In the past, Bishops castigated pro-abort candidates who then went on to win based on their "victim of the Church" status.
Kerry's somewhere out there in the Land of Make Believe where nothing matters except feeding his overexposed ego and advancing his self-serving political ambitions to make the world safe for liberalism. Liberals love being "victims."
The Dummycrat Code of is as follows: " We pledge allegiance to victimization. Victimization is the Democrats basic belief by which we blame and find others responsible for our own personal failures. Democrats just can't feel good about ourselves unless we are in the throes of victimization. That's when we really get in touch with our feelings. It feels good to be either A) causing victims, B) concocting victims, C) playing victim, D) commiserating over victims, or E) creating another class of victims to bleed over. It gets us votes, too."
16 posted on
04/27/2004 12:02:14 PM PDT by
Liz
To: ninenot
I've not been a fan of Catholicism, but I'll change my views if they keep this up and actually apply it. They've turned a blind eye to the socialist agenda on the left for far too long. You cannot be an active abortion supporter and love God -- doesn't work that way.
17 posted on
04/27/2004 12:08:02 PM PDT by
Naspino
(HTTP://NASPINO.COM)
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