BUSH MAKES THE CALL: NO FULL SCALE FALLUJAH OFFENSIVE

The Drudge Report ^ | April 25, 2004 | Matt Drudge

[threat matrix]

developing tonight..header for now

[Peach]

You're right. I let my emotions run away with me for a minute when I saw the headline; took me back to Vietnam when the politicos were running things from the White House.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Bull sh*t, this neocon crap don't fly no more.

[Joe Hadenuf]

This is absolutely disgusting. WTF are we negotiating here?

[valkyrieanne]

If we continue on our current path there is no end in sight to our military expenditures for this operation, no end in sight to the loss of American lives, and more importantly, there is no hope for a stable Iraq. The most likely conclusion that we can reach at this point is there will be a deterioriation into chaos and genocide between the Sunni's, Shites and Kurds after we leave Iraq. And, maybe also between different groups of Shites.

What is the point of American soldiers dying for people who want to "vote" in Islamic or communist (Kurds) dictatorship?

[Joe Hadenuf]

We are on the offensive, quietly.

What a laugh!

You're spin is speeding up the rotation of the earth.

[Theo]

Read some of the threads on "snipers." We're perhaps "negotiating" on one hand, but killing dozens of the bad guys after curfew with the other hand. We are on the offensive, but quietly.

It's really quite exciting to read of our snipers trailing the bad guys into a mosque, waiting for them to come out, then picking them off, and then laying their bodies side-by-side with their IDs on them, to be viewed by passers-by in the morning after curfew lets up....

[valkyrieanne]

The UN will never allows us to defeat the to defeat the terrorists. Our leaders promised overwhelming force after the initial mutilations. ... Screw the UN ... How many more have to die needlessly before the gloves come off? Do we need another 3000 inocents slaughtered on our soil?

Yes. IMO that's what it's going to take.

[Bommer]

We hear about "the holy city of Najaf, the holy city of Karbala", and so on. what about U.S. cities like "the holy City of New York, the holy city of washington D.C?

The difference are nutjobs willing to strap bombs to themselves and children and blow themselves up to defend a fictional belief verses a fat dumb and happy public who wouldn't lift a gun to defend themselves.

[FightThePower!]

Why should anyone vote for Bush now?

[MissAmericanPie]

I sure hope this report is bogus. Given Bush's plan to flee Iraq leaving the job unfinished, again, when a majority of Americans want us to stay and finish it, I believe will harm us greatly in the long run. We have been seen as weak in a very mean world where we have no allies.

Politics and war don't mix when they refuse to allow our troops to win. They train our troops, tell them they eat guts for breakfast, ship them over and then tell them to win hearts and minds.

If Patton had been around in Alexander the Great's time, Alexander wouldn't have been so great, but Patton didn't play politics, his undoing. If politics had been left out of the equation in Nam it would have been won in a heart beat, now this.

I hope the report is bogus for all our sakes.

[Liberal Classic]

Concerned about the repercussions is what stalled the Gulf War the first time. What did that get us?

[Joe Hadenuf]

People who badmouth his Commander in Chief, and who go around prophesying doom when they don't know what they're talking about

It's just amazing. Some of you people would support any policy as long as it's you're candidate making the policy.

Down right scary, and very dangerous to all of us.

[Joe Hadenuf]

This is the kind of low intensity conflict that gets soldiers killed. And the kind of operation that will lose my vote!!!

Damn right it is. Saw the same exact sh*t in Vietnam.

[Publius6961]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1124504/posts

[Joe Hadenuf]

This is absolutely disgusting. WTF are we negotiating here?

[roses of sharon]

I love these threads!

Drama queens, contrarians, conpirazoids, and mindreaders, who know all military plans, who know all the intell, and who are secretly in Iraq and who probably spoke with the President directly.

DU sounds exactly the same.

[Euro-American Scum]

This is the kind of low intensity conflict that gets soldiers killed. And the kind of operation that will lose my vote!!!

Eugene McCarthy said something very significant just prior to the 1968 presidential campaign. He said the war (Vietnam) will not become massively unpopular until the body bags start coming home in large number to small midwestern towns of population 5,000 or less.

Bush knows this. He knows he doesn't have a thing to worry about until this happens. Could be this is why we won't see more boots on the ground when they're needed most. Could very well be this is why we won't see the kind of offensive action needed to put an end to this once and for all.

With a campaign opponent like John Kerry, Bush doesn't need to do a thing. Ten or twenty casualties a week won't effect his standing with the electorate one bit. Neither will a prolonged struggle. 500-600 body bags a week will. And that is never going to happen.

I only know that if Bill Clinton had done exactly the same thing, the entire country would be screaming treason! to the heights of heaven.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I love these threads!

No matter what, and no matter what policy is implemented, some will support it regardless, as long as *THEIR* candidate is for it!

I mean the President could order that all the troops now wear glow pained reflective safety vests, and many of these people would say, well you know, it'll reduce friendly fire incidents. Go Bush!

[muawiyah]

Another way to round up the bad guys without hurting civilians?

Hmmmmmmm! A tough one.

Bet it has something to do with NOT BOMBING Fallujah to the ground. This is, after all, a fairly good sized town ~ about the size of Columbus, Ohio. Certainly to nail a few hundred terrorists holed up in one neighborhood you probably wouldn't want to go bomb Ohio State University (although as an Indiana fan I can see certain benefits to that).

What the Marines are doing at the moment is killing them with precision fire.

[BureaucratusMaximus]

Do we need another 3000 inocents slaughtered on our soil?

No...next time it will be more. 3000 wasn't enough to make mainstream America come to their senses. God help us.