The young take baton on abortion

oregon live ^ | 4/25/04 | Ellen Goodman

[TxBec]

I watched as much as I could stomach of this. My sons came in and asked what I was watching. We all sat there staring at these psycho woman (yes, we mentioned that they must all be on crack.)

My sons said if they heard "reproductive rights" one more time they would scream. I finally had to turn it off when I started wanting to yell at my TV (sigh.)

[TxBec]

oops .. women.

[TxBec]

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[Polonius]

... and when 10,000 American women a year died from illegal abortions

This statistic seems ridiculous on its face. Does anyone know its origin?

[Mr. Silverback]

please add me to your ping list.

You Betcha!

[EllaMinnow]

Ellen Goodman was born in 1941.

Was birth control ever illegal? Haven't condoms been around in one form or another for centuries? Haven't diaphragms been widely available since the 1920's?

Birth control pills have been around since before Roe v Wade. Why are so many women so STUPID?

[TxBec]

I don't like being labeled a Gen-Xer, but... add me to your list anyway??

thanks!

[Dianna]

"Responsibility" cuts both ways in conversations and attitudes, especially about abortion. For some "responsibility" means women have the obligation to avoid unwanted pregnancy. For others, it suggests women need the access and information to make the right decisions.

What on earth does this mean? Some people think responsibility means taking an action and other people think responsibility means someone else telling you stuff so that when you screw up then you can figure out what to do?

[MHGinTN]

'EVIL INTERRUPTED' ... one of mine.

[BlkConserv]

Ellen Goodman is a commie columnist for the Boston Globe.

[TxBec]

put me on your ping list when you finish it?

[Aliska]

Can't find it on google. How can one get a copy to read?

[MHGinTN]

I haven't finished writing it yet! ... RJayneJ posted the short story version a while back, but I asked her to pull it when my agent said we wouldn't be giving that one away.

[MHGinTN]

Will do ...

[Aliska]

Oh! Please let me know when you are done.

[Klickitat]

"If she would check the polls instead of live in her 60's fake world, she would realize young people are the most pro-life of all people!

James Taranto of WSJ online calls this the Roe Effect. His theory is that since leftists are more likely to get abortions than conservatives the younger generation that is being born now is more likely to be raised in a conservative household with conservative values. He has more about it in various "Best of the Web Today" columns on opinionjournal.com

[T'wit]

> This statistic seems ridiculous on its face. Does anyone know its origin?

Yes. The former abortionist, Bernard Nathanson, said they made it up, to boost the fledgling NARAL group (I think). This showed up in another thread today, though I'd heard it before. That thread also came up with the highest number of women's deaths from abortion at about 1,900 -- but that was before antibiotics. (Sorry to do this from memory. Best find that other thread and get the exact figures...)

[T'wit]

Here we go. This is from that other thread. I'll give you the link... Abortionist lies

"...The truth is that by 1966, the year before the first state liberalized abortion, fatalities dropped to 120 per year due to the overall improvement in medical care and the introduction of antibiotics. You have to go back to the pre-antibiotic days, the 1940's, and even then the highest annual death toll was 1,679. Former abortionist and NARAL founder Dr. Bernard Nathanson admits the 10,000 number was intentionally inflated just to get abortion legalized!"

So, 1679, not 1,900. (Knew I had that wrong but I couldn't remember the right figure.)

[T'wit]

>> ...I could name a mental illness after Ellen Goodman.

Great idea! She is a poster person for cognitive implosion.

What puzzles me about Ellen Goodman is how she can exhibit all the signs of pre-menstrual syndrome every day of her post-menopausal life. I suppose that's the price one pays for being a left-winger. There's nothing to smile about and after a while, your stomach ferments.

[hocndoc]

I traveled all day, so I missed the broadcasts.

But, I wish there were some way to broadcast these statistics.