Allegations renew nun's death case

Toledo Blade ^ | 25 april 2004 | David Yonke

[maryz]

Looks like everybody's gotta get into the act --

[heyheyhey]

Very interesting spin from CBS-News, The Early Show,

Davison, a patrolman at the time, was not involved in the investigation. He happened to be among the first at the scene because he was having breakfast in the hospital cafeteria when the nun’s body was found in the chapel.

“A nurse ran down, told us that we should get up to the chapel, that there was a nun dead,” Davison recalls. “We ran up. We got there before the call came into the police department, because everybody at the hospital knew us.”

The investigation that followed “seemed to go nowhere," the retired officer said. “I mean, you talk to the guys, ask what progress. And basically they would toss you off. So it didn't go anywhere.”

One of the police investigators at the time now says that he thought that the case had not been thoroughly investigated, and Davison agrees, suggesting that authorities may have been pressured to keep the investigation stalled.

“You really don't want to call it a coverup,” Davison said, noting “I think the diocese took control of him.” The priest was removed from Mercy Hospital, where he was practicing, but stayed in Toledo.

“You have to remember on our department, the people in the upper command levels that had control on this are good Catholics. And I'm sure that some kind of friendly deal was cut. I think basically he was under house arrest under the church care.”

If you asked me, Davison should also be named a suspect in the killing. So much for the national "news" from CBS. The fact, published all over the newspapers, is that Fr. Robinson was appointed a pastor after the 1980 incident. Parishioners at St. Anthony church, where Robinson was a pastor after the slaying, are setting up a legal defense fund. Now big fat CBS suggests the priest was put under a "house arrest" by the church.

Thank you CBS News for your no spin zone!

[ninenot]

A friend of mine here in Milwaukee attended the North American College with Egan.

They all regarded Egan as the most overweeningly ambitious creep they'd ever met.

"Fast Eddie" was his nickname.

[heyheyhey]

Looks like everybody's gotta get into the act

It doesn't make sense anymore.

Originally, was the lady penetrated with a snake by a bunch of Catholic priests. She was, surprise surprise, discredited. Nonetheless, this was enough to put Fr. Robinson, an exemplary priest for his whole life, "on the radar" of SNAP, and also reopen a botched 24-year-old murder case.

Now he is guilty until proven innocent, and to make it sure, the media run his picture unshaven in a brown jail outfit - innocent people never look like that! Two days ago there was his "normal" picture in the papers, but it's nowhere to be found anymore.

Of course, he will be acquitted, but nothing will bring back his good name.

[ninenot]

My mind's still very open on this one...

But as the deputy said in Fr. Kunz's case: 'NOBODY ever 'expects' the perp to have done the deed.'

It's not impossible for someone to keep that sort of secret for that long, nor is it impossible that he did it.

The question to me is not "Satanism," but motive in general.

[heyheyhey]

Of course, the motive would indicate a potential killer. Robbery, as a motive, was excluded early on. Also, the peculiar way her body was treated - candles, altar cloth, exclude simple robbery.

A satanic, ritualistic killing? I think it was only made by the killer or killers to look that way. It was also made to look as if there was a sexual assault involved.

Sister Pahl was well known, she "was a former director of the hospital's nursing school and also was an administrator at hospitals in Toledo and Tiffin." So, she could have had enemies.

There is NO WAY to reopen the case after 24 years based on a testimony of a gal fed human eyeball by a group of Catholic priests. It's BS justice. Thank to our US Catholic Bishops' historical meeting in Dallas.

[OpusatFR]

"...She was, surprise surprise, discredited."

Where did you see that? I can't find anything in the articles...

I'm interested because this garbage is happening again, only this time, the religious are the targets, not daycare centers.

[heyheyhey]

"...She was, surprise surprise, discredited."
Where did you see that? I can't find anything in the articles...

The gal penetrated with a snake talked completely outrageous BS.

Look up the link to "Victims' group faults reaction by local diocese" #60 above, it says,

Sally Oberski, diocese spokesman, said Father Robinson remained in his position for good reason after the woman's allegation that ultimately led to the reopening of the murder case. "There were no credible allegations on him," she said.

At this moment there are 162 articles on Google News search that say "her allegations could not be substantiated."

The allegations are listed in post #20 and in the original article.

The concentration is now on the "murder weapon," a small knife. How is this going to link the crime positively to Fr. Robinson (or anybody else!?) after 24 years???

[livius]

They all regarded Egan as the most overweeningly ambitious creep they'd ever met.

I've never met him, but he has always seemed that way to me, just from his public persona. I always get the feeling that he's not wondering about the right thing to do, but about the thing most beneficial to him - and then he is going to be ruthless in pursuing it. That was certainly how he handled the sex scandals in his prior diocese.

The question is, now that he is Cardinal Archbishop of New York, what is left for him to attain? (Well, the answer is obvious, and it's not a pretty thought!)

[heyheyhey]

NewsNet5.com has a picture of a knife found in Fr. Robinson's possession after the nun was killed.

It looks like a regular letter opener knife found on 99% office desks. Now the prosecution has only to prove that it was THE MURDER WEAPON. They didn't do it 24 years ago, how are they going to do it today???

[ninenot]

The guy would have to be a complete MORON to keep the stupid weapon in his desk....

[heyheyhey]

They vaguely mentioned some new "blood transfer patterns" technique to help determine a weapon. I can't see what good it would be after 24 years?

But… because the whole thing started with a testimony of a completely kooky woman taken seriously, since the US Bishops gently bended over in Dallas to protect the homosexuals at any cost, I think the whole case is a thorough BS, and I would love to see Fr. Robinson sue the living **** out of the prosecution. He isn't the kind to do it though.

[ELS]

However, if he were being set up to take the fall...

[heyheyhey]

More spin in the media now.

WTOL-TV Toledo, OH reports the following,

Dave Davison was not directly involved in the investigation. He was one of the first on the scene because he was having breakfast at Mercy Hospital when the nun's body was found. Davison says, at the time, Father Robinson was the only person mentioned as a suspect.

He says he believes the Toledo Police Department stalled on the investigation.

"If you remember back to the 1980's our upper command and people that had control of this were good Catholic people," said Davison.

Davison says as the investigation continued he believes the Catholic Diocese took control of it. Father Gerald Robinson was removed from Mercy Hospital, but stayed in the area.

Notice two things in the text,
(1) "upper command and people that had control of this were good Catholic people," so your conclusion should be: good Catholic people would cover up a satanic ritual killing of a nun by a priest.
(2) "Father Gerald Robinson was removed from Mercy Hospital, but stayed in the area," which you should read that the bishop also covered for a satanic murderous priest, only slapped his wrist by removing him from the hospital. In fact, Fr. Robinson became a St. Anthony parish pastor, and is being supported by his parishioners to this very day.

[tang-soo]

I often think of Malachi Martin when I hear of some abuse committed by a priest. Fr. Martin often talked about Satan working through members of the clergy even in the Vatican hierarchy. I never knew what to make of his claims but I enjoyed listening to him. One of the few individuals who spoke openly and comfortably about the presence of evil in the world. Very unPC guy.

“The tail of the devil is functioning in the disintegration of the Catholic world. The darkness of Satan has entered and spread throughout the Catholic Church even to its summit. Apostasy, the loss of the faith, is spreading throughout the world and into the highest levels within the Church.” (Address on the Sixtieth Anniversary of the Fatima Apparitions, October 13, 1977)

[heyheyhey]

How is this relevant to this thread????

Pope Paul VI never used these freaky words; no credible source quotes this text.

I think the text belongs in the casket with the woman with her eyeballs, snakes and cockroaches.

[tang-soo]

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2002Mar/mar18ed.htm
http://www.traditio.com/
http://www.archoftriumph.org/meditation.html
amongst others. This was not a shot of Catholics. you may have taken that way but was not my intent. My point was to show that satan has his plans to infiltrate all Christian churches.

[heyheyhey]

Those are private little websites. None of them is a credible Catholic source.

EWTN.com and Vatican.va libraries feature all significant Catholic documents.

Besides, I don't believe that this priest, Fr. Robinson, is the nun's killer of 1980. It just became very easy to accuse a Catholic of anything, even feeding little girls with human eyeballs.

[heyheyhey]

http://www.onnnews.com/story.php?record=30021

Update,

April 27, 2004

A Toledo priest remains in jail Tuesday and charged with killing a nun 24 years ago.

Supporters have started a legal defense fund for the Rev. Gerald Robinson.

Friends describe him as a dedicated priest who is rarely seen without his collar.

They say he's painfully shy and they say they can't fathom the charges against him.

In the years after his co-worker's murder, friends recall that Robinson never mentioned the death even though police say he was a suspect at the time.

Police arrested Robinson on Friday and charged him with murder in the stabbing and strangling of Sister Margaret Ann Pahl.

Three days after her death, Robinson celebrated the funeral Mass for the nun.

[heyheyhey]

British Independent spins the story in its own way,

Sex and satanic rituals claim as priest is accused of murdering nun

By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
28 April 2004

Depending on whom you believe, Gerald Robinson is either a quiet, somewhat remote, balding cleric who has faithfully served the Catholic Church for the past 40 years, or a sexual pervert and participant in bizarre Satanic rituals who killed a 71-year-old nun and covered up the crime.

Either way, the 66-year-old priest is the talk of the Rust Belt town of Toledo, Ohio, where he has been arraigned on murder charges and imprisoned in the county jail after his arrest last weekend.

His case is not only replete with details straight out of a Gothic melodrama, including one particularly lurid report of a ritual involving a teenage girl, a snake and a human eyeball. It is also once more throwing an unwelcome spotlight on the moral integrity of the Catholic hierarchy, which in this case supported Fr Robinson and allowed him to continue his pastoral duties even after he was formally placed under investigation for murder last year.

Read on the drivel...