[Monty22]

bull and $hit. They obviously can make nonaddictive painkillers, they're already doing it well.. Celebrex and Ultram are great.

Get over your druggie ideals, that's soooo old.

[AntiGuv]

Of course they're doing well. The article says only 5-10% have a problem with addiction. The other 90% have no problem with getting prescribed Celebrex and Ultram when appropriate.

[neverdem]

They obviously can make nonaddictive painkillers, they're already doing it well.. Celebrex and Ultram are great.

For mild to moderate pain many analgesics will suffice, but for severe pain, especially when it's chronic, only opiates can cut the mustard. BTW, Ultram, aka tramadol, is a semi-synthetic opiate, and a relatively small number of folks have become addicted to it, IIRC. It does have abuse potential.

[jammer]

Celebrex and Ultram are great.

Sure. But it would be nonsensical to think that they--especially Celebrex--have the analgesic potency of opiates.

[Sally'sConcerns]

Celebrex is an anti-inflammatory and doesn't work like pain medication does. Aspirin works better for me with less complications than celebrex. Ultram didn't help me at all since it's for mild pain.

I hope you never have to deal with chronic pain, limited range of motion and limitations of what you can do.

I've been taking one form of narcotic or another since 11/94 for chronic pain. (Same physician until last year when I moved to a different part of the country.)

Want to trade places? I'll gladly trade my chronic pain for pain that can be alleviated by Celebrex and Ultram. If my pain could be handled by these drugs I might be able to have a life again instead of being as limited as I am now.

[devane617]

"Celebrex and Ultram are great..."

Ultram was originally marketed as a nonaddictive, non-opiad pain reliever. However, it along with it's generic twin Tramadol has turned into a real addictive monster.
Take a few moments to do a Google/Yahoo search for Tramadol, or Ultram addiction. I think you will see a much different picture than you described.

[Kozak]

bull and $hit. They obviously can make nonaddictive painkillers, they're already doing it well.. Celebrex and Ultram are great.

Celebrex is a Cox 2 inhibitor NSAID. Can't take it with a lot of drugs, such as Coumadin, or history of ulcer.

Ultram is pretty good, but SURPRISE, can cause addiction as well.

Both are far more expensive then some of the opiates, which are actually great drugs when used correctly.

[Sally'sConcerns]

bull and $hit. They obviously can make nonaddictive painkillers, they're already doing it well.. Celebrex and Ultram are great.

Get over your druggie ideals, that's soooo old.

Celebrex is an NSAID which means it's an anti-inflammatory the same as motrin, aspirin and vioxx.

Here's some information about your so-called non-addictive painkiller Ultram:

http://www.orthomcneil.com/healthinfo/painmanagement/products/ultramfaq.html

Who Should Not Take ULTRAM®? Cases of abuse and dependence on ULTRAM have been reported. ULTRAM should not be used in opioid-dependent patients. Since ULTRAM can reinitiate physical dependence, it is not recommended for patients with a tendency to drug abuse, a history of drug dependence, or chronically using opioids.

Additionally, anyone who has had an allergic-type reaction to either ULTRAM or any product containing an opioid medicine (like Tylenol®* with Codeine) should not take ULTRAM.

Can I Take ULTRAM® Along with Other Medications? There are certain medications that should be used with caution while taking ULTRAM. These other medications include tranquilizers, sleeping pills, antidepressants, and opioid pain medicines. Be sure to talk with your doctor about all other medicines you are taking before starting your prescription for ULTRAM.

Does ULTRAM® Have Side Effects? All medicines, including ULTRAM, can cause side effects. People who experienced side effects with ULTRAM in medical studies usually did so at the beginning of treatment. The most frequently reported side effects experienced with ULTRAM were constipation, nausea, dizziness, headache, somnolence, and vomiting. Patients should talk to their doctors about any side effects they experience while taking ULTRAM.

ULTRAM may impair your ability to drive a car or operate machinery.

Why would Ultram impair your ability if there wasn't some type of kick or high associated with it?

Seizures have been reported in patients taking ULTRAM.

Patients with a history of severe, life-threatening allergic (anaphylactoid) reactions to codeine and other opioids may be at increased risk and therefore should not receive ULTRAM

From the pdf file on Ultram: Ultram is a centrally acting synthetic opoiod analgesic.

Ultram may induce psychic and physical dependence of the morphine-type (u-opioid)

Ultram can be addictive per the manufacturer of the drug in the same manner as morphine.