Drug Makers Hope to Kill the Kick in Pain Relief

NY Times ^ | April 20, 2004 | SANDRA BLAKESLEE

[nopardons]

You very well MAY be a "drug abuser",since for some reason or other,you've chosen to take umbrage with my posts.Only YOU are taking what I said personally.

There are many people on FR,who live in constant pain due one thing or another.Most of them don't post to the pro-doper threads,demanding that all now illegal substances be made legal and wanting the WoD done away with.

You sound as though you could benefit from learning pain management classes,a set of new doctors,and perhaps some psychoanalysis. No,I'm not a doctor,I don't play one on T.V.,but you're far too angry over an internet thread. Oh,and as far as your migraines go,you should avail yourself of a headache clinic (The Diamond Headache Clinic,in Ill. is really very good!),so that you can get off sedatives.Cluster headaches are worse than migraines(and yes,I know EXACTLY how horrendous a migraines is,having suffered from them almost my entire life!),but sedatives are NOT given for them.

You may not realize it,but you just admitted to the fact that you REALLY want the high,want it more than to be free of the pain.Yeah...that makes you someone who isn't interested in just alleviating the pain.

[Sally'sConcerns]

I'm not taking what you said personally. It makes me no difference what some anonymous poster to an internet board says about people who are in chronic pain. Sweetie, you have no impact on my life whatsoever other than I was motivated to respond to you.

I wasn't aware this thread was a pro-doper thread. My mistake since I didn't see it in the title or in the keywords. I was under the mistaken impression it was about new and improved pain medication being developed.

As far as pain management, I've been to four separate pain management Doctors (all under the same primary care physician so I wasn't doctor shopping) and am currently under the care of another one. I had to change since I moved from Texas to Oklahoma. The migraines are caused by a botched 3 level cervical fusion. Before you make a sweeping generalization about what sedatives are prescribed for, you might review what Fiorinal (which contains a sedative) is prescribed for.

Nowhere did I admit I wanted the high more than I want adequate pain relief. Please take a moment to re-read my posts. I find it amazing how you can know what's in my mind by a couple of posts on an internet board.

I also would like to have you provide proof I ever said anything about illegal substances being make legal and the WOD being done away with. I think if you review my posting history you'll find I don't participate in the "to drug or not to drug" threads. Please have the courtesy to desist in putting words I never said into my mouth.

[nopardons]

Boy are YOU in denial!

You are correct about what this thread started out as,but,as usual,it was taken over by the pro-dopers.And you've added to their shrill cry.

As a life long migraine sufferer,I know full well what has been and is now prescribed for them.You're the one who said that you're taking a "sedative" for the migraines you get.You also posted to a public forum,that you NEED/enjoy the "HIGH",which lasts 30 minutes.If you don't want your own words to be used,as part of a refutation, then either think carefully before you post,or don't post.

I wrote about what FR's permanent group of pro-dopers post to threads..re their anathematic,knee-jerk,reflexive reactions and words.If they don't fit you,then you need to post more cogent replies.Elsewise,you'll be associated with that group.

You're still reacting as though you are the ONLY person,who suffers from debilitating pain.Yu aren't. A migraine is a migraine is a migraine, no matter why one has them.You've only suffered through them since 1994.I'm quite a number of decades ahead of you.You were an adult,when they first hit you;I was six years old.There is actually quite a largish group,on FR, who have migraines,due to operations such as the botched one,that set off your headaches,as well as others,such as myself,who get them for other,non-opperation related reasons.

Go read your own posts.I didn't embellish what's in any of them.

[cyborg]

Reading your post reminded me of the 'good ole days' of suffering from cluster headaches.

[Sally'sConcerns]

Your interpretation:

You also posted to a public forum,that you NEED/enjoy the "HIGH",which lasts 30 minutes

My words:

The short time I experience the 'high' from the drugs is welcome relief as I get somewhat floaty and don't care nearly as much about the pain

You would take away a short period of time where I relax, get floaty and forget for a short time about pain

I don't see the words need or enjoy.

What are you so angry about? Why do you feel the need to put words in someone's mouth that they never said? The only one associating me with "that group" is you. Where did I say I thought I was the only person suffering from chronic pain?

Do you have a migraine now? Is that what is impairing your ability to read what I've said?

Life is too short and too precious to listen to you screech about what you think I've said. I hope you feel better soon. As for me, I'm going to toddle off to bed and enjoy the sound of the rain as I fall to sleep.

Good night and sweet dreams.

[ladyinred]

you might review what Fiorinal (which contains a sedative) is prescribed for.

.Several years ago I was given this med for really bad headaches. Nothing stopped them from recurring, and one day I read something about tests finding that Fiorinal sometimes actually caused recurring headaches. I decided to try stopping the meds and the headaches did stop. Might just be a certain people thing, but it really did stop mine and I am headache free these days.

[ladyinred]

There are many people on FR,who live in constant pain due one thing or another.Most of them don't post to the pro-doper threads,demanding that all now illegal substances be made legal and wanting the WoD done away with.

.Amen my friend!

[nopardons]

You bet I'd take away your "floaty" time.Why isn't the relief from pain enough?Could it be because you ENJOY the high and the release from pain is just not as important to you? That's what it sounds like!

I'm not "angry", but you are and defensive to boot.Now just WHY is that? Because you like getting HIGH,but have the "out",in your mind, because it's "for the pain"?

I don't need to get all " floaty"...I just NEED the pain and the attendant,debilitating symptoms to go away.:-)

No,I don't have a migraine now,do you..or are you just so over medicated that you have no idea what your posts read like,nor anyone else's,for that matter?

If "life's so short",then I suggest that you shouldn't have started posting to me,but having done so,stop.After all,you just might get a worse headache doing so;not to mention apoplexy.;^)

[gawatchman]

Yes. When I was given hydrocodone for my back pain, I noticed it helped my depression as well. However, the SSRI's I was prescribed came with various unwanted side effects, and a few of the SSRI's I tried made me feel downright strange, so I discontinued their use. I have read that it is not clearly understood how these psychoactive drugs act on the brain, and many act to disable brain activity and long-term use can result in people acting as zombies as you've described having been given a chemical lobotomy. I see them mainly as a huge revenue generator for the pharmaceutical companies and the pill-pushers who prescribe them.