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Don't Be Surprised When Iraqi WMD Found (Rush)
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | April 20, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/20/2004 5:23:18 PM PDT by Bayou City

Don't Be Surprised When Iraqi WMD Found

April 20, 2004

I don't know if you heard about this, because it has not been widely reported. Terrorists linked to Al-Qaeda were poised to detonate a chemical bomb in the heart of Amman, Jordan, that would have killed 20,000 people and contaminated a large area. King Abdullah praised Jordan's intelligence service for foiling a crime never before seen in the kingdom of Jordan. The target was a headquarters of the general intelligence department on a hill in Amman.

King Abdullah was to be in America to meet with President Bush, but decided not to come because of this threat. Where this story gets interesting is that King Abdullah of Jordan says that the vehicles carrying these explosives, the chemical bomb, were smuggled over the border from neighboring Syria. Syria is denying this, but these are weapons of mass destruction.

Syria is a transit point for weapons of mass destruction. The whole subject of where are the weapons of mass destruction remains a focal point of mine. It remains an area of heightened curiosity, because I do not believe that they have been destroyed. I do not believe that Iraq never had them. I think Iraq had them. I think Iraq was working on them. I don't think the world's intelligence agencies are as woefully incompetent and bad and inept as the whole weapons of mass destruction issue would lead us to believe.

There are some things missing from buildings in Iraq, and there's too much speculation out there about how some of this stuff can be miniaturized and transported out of the country easily. Syria is an obvious place, and many people I respect have pointed to the Bekaa Valley as a place as well. We're not going to invade Syria any time soon to find out, but this is the second example of weapons of mass destruction-type coming out of Syria.

Now, they had to get to Syria somehow. I just want to keep your mind open to the possibility that these weapons of mass destruction from Iraq are somewhere, and they've not been destroyed. They haven't just vanished into the ether, and I'm going to make a prediction to you that all of the liberals and critics of the president who have harped on this and jumped on this have once again jumped the gun. They are a little premature here because we don't know yet what, if anything, did happen to those weapons of mass destruction, despite knowing that they did exist. So keep your hats on and don't be surprised down the road what is learned at some point.

Yellow cake uranium has been found at junk yards in Rotterdam and that's exactly what Iraq was looking for. This stuff could have been disbursed over the years to any number of places, and if you think that an Al-Qaeda related group is going to blow up Amman, Jordan with weapons that were procured from Syria, if you think that Al-Qaeda is not related to what all was going on in Iraq, and the Middle East, then you are engaged in blindness or wishful thinking. That is the position of the left, and that's why they can't be trusted to be placed in a leadership position.

Read the Articles...

(CNN: Jordan 'thwarts massive attack')
('UK Telegraph: Al-Qa'eda plot would have killed 20,000')
(NewsMax: King Abdullah: Al Qaeda WMDs Came From Syria)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; iraq; jordan; rush; wmd
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To: Maximilian
I already did...
201 posted on 04/20/2004 9:24:51 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D Online Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: Maximilian
Yeesh... you're still fighting that fight? There is a point where you just have to stop pushing a bad hand.

g'nite. Good luck to you.
202 posted on 04/20/2004 9:26:31 PM PDT by Ramius ([...sip...])
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To: Maximilian
You did not answer the question. Try again. Bill Kristol and his "Weekly Standard" 'cohorts' are not in the Bush administration.
203 posted on 04/20/2004 9:27:19 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Skywarner
Again, I ask you, were those two F-16's on afterburner that I saw peeling overhead that morning at about 9:20am just a figment of my imagination?

If you're near Virginia maybe this is what you saw:

9:24 a.m.: NORAD orders the 1st Fighter Wing from Langley Air Force Base in Hampton, Virginia to scramble two, possibly three F-16 fighters. This time NORAD does not sit on this vital information for six minutes before notifying Langley AFB. Langley is 130 miles south of Washington D.C. and the Pentagon. The F-16 has a top speed of 1500 MPH.

9:30 a.m.: Two maybe three F-16 Fighting Falcons code-named Huntress take off from Langley AFB headed at first toward at NYC. A couple of minutes into their mission, according to General Haugen "A person came on the radio and identified themselves as being with the Secret Service" and said, "I want you to protect the White House at all costs." The F-16’s laid in a new course and vectored to Washington D.C.


204 posted on 04/20/2004 9:28:29 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
So how did we choose Iraq? They would be the least likely country in the Middle East if their support for Islamic fundamentalism and harboring of terrorists were the criteria we were using.

Among other things, Iraq was paying Palistenians to blow up Isralis. Iraq had launched scuds against a non-combatant Israel. That should say something about Iraq's intentions.

205 posted on 04/20/2004 9:29:33 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: Maximilian
Though I am a ground pounder, I seem to recall the USAF funding for ready interceptors cut and regulations put in place restricting their use in the late 90s. This caused an uproar in the armed forces, but was silenced with a few forced retirements and such.

As it was, the USAF/ANG took unarmed planes and loaded them up and launched them in record time. It was mistake from the previous administration to take down the interceptor flights (no Cold War you know..bad PR to have fighters ready to go) and create confusing rules of engagement for the pilots. These mistakes were corrected, but if we all had forsight as well as we have hindsight, we would have read the signs that said "the Japanese will attack Pearl Harbor at x time, in y formation with z number of planes" and we would have arrayed our aircraft and ships differently.
206 posted on 04/20/2004 9:30:38 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: Maximilian
Is the Weekly Standard then in reality running the world?
207 posted on 04/20/2004 9:31:52 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D Online Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: Maximilian
We seem to feel an obligation to go to every 2-bit hell-hole around the world like Somalia and try to bring them "democracy" at the point of a gun barrel. Unfortunately, they don't seem to be too interested or grateful.

More likely it is not democracy we try to bring them. There is no way they could understand it or practice it. At least it is not going to happen so quick. Everyone must (or should) understand this.

Anyway, I think it more what we are trying to do for ourselves. I hope so. I hope our government understands nothing changes so fast. The reason the government give, demcracy, is not the real reason is what I mean.

Everything now should be about our security. Hitting back and hitting back very hard is what most of the world understand and respect. U.S. people are the only ones that think being nice in time like this show strength. All it show is weak and get no respect. That is really the way the world works and with some bad people you must just kill all of them because they never be good and they never give up.

208 posted on 04/20/2004 9:32:30 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Republican Wildcat
Yeah, I just saw that one. Now I know why hallucinogens are illegal in America...it's an open door to fall into communist behavior apparently.
209 posted on 04/20/2004 9:33:14 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D Online Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Syria has Iraq's WMDs and is sharing with Al Queda

Syria has no interest in attacking Jordan.

210 posted on 04/20/2004 9:33:23 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
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To: BJungNan
Great 'bottom line' BTTT
211 posted on 04/20/2004 9:34:17 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D Online Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: Maximilian
8:21 a.m.:

So that leaves about 20 minutes for the United States to make and execute a decision to shoot down civilian airliners over the heavily inhabited northeast.

212 posted on 04/20/2004 9:34:27 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: M1Tanker
ok that's it..good night
213 posted on 04/20/2004 9:37:20 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Wrong. The whacky world of muslims and Arabs in general is so much more complicated in their intra-national relationships, i.e., official policy on Israel, Iraq -- Syria is HOME to Hizbollah, Hamas and several other viper organizations that do Syria's bidding. Syria is doing everything it can to keep us tied up in Iraq and wherever else next, because they know they're one or two steps away from being caput...and they resent anyone, particularly Arab neighbors, that is remotely friendly with America.
214 posted on 04/20/2004 9:37:28 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D Online Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: M1Tanker
Whatever a neo-con is.. wasn't it a word Gephart made up?

I already posted the answer to that question here on this thread. It has nothing whatever to do with Gephart. Irving Kristol takes full credit for creating the word "neo-conservative" and the neo-conservative movement. Unlike some others like Jonah Goldberg and David Frum who try to pretend that it doesn't exist, Kristol is very forthright about the meaning of the term and the significance of the movement. Here is the link again:

The Neoconservative Persuasion
From the August 25, 2003 issue: What it was, and what it is.
by Irving Kristol

"Viewed in this way, one can say that the historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy."
Clinton would be a "despot" by those standards. So is Clinton a neo-con?

Clinton was clearly a despot. As far as being a neo-con, like everything else, he was whenever it suited his purposes. He talked about "national greatness" and "extending our power" whenever he wanted to distract people from what was going on at home.

No, there was no direct threat Serbia posed to the US.

Thank you for this candid admission. I appreciate your honesty.

Our mission there was to stop the atrocities and separate the factions. The goal was to allow them the chance for peace and freedom.

I can agree with what you are saying if you are referring to Bosnia-Herzogovina. But I fail to see how the subsequent bombing the Serbian infrastructure falls under the rubric of "stopping the atrocities and separating the factions."

215 posted on 04/20/2004 9:38:38 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: M1Tanker
I seem to recall the USAF funding for ready interceptors cut and regulations put in place restricting their use in the late 90s. This caused an uproar in the armed forces, but was silenced with a few forced retirements and such.

It was mistake from the previous administration to take down the interceptor flights (no Cold War you know..bad PR to have fighters ready to go) and create confusing rules of engagement for the pilots.

Thank you very much for documenting these facts. My point was not whose fault it was, although I am more than willing to believe that it was entirely the fault of the Clinton administration. The point was that while we were busy engaging in quarrels all over the world, our actual defense of our own country was sorely lacking, as was proven in a time of need. Your information confirms that we had been gutting our actual defense at the same time that we were spreading our forces more and more thinly around the world. Do you disagree with that assessment?

216 posted on 04/20/2004 9:43:30 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
Wow. This just keeps getting better and better...

Again, we are all STILL waiting for your official source in regards to your previous statement that no air cover was in the air for several hours after the 9/11 attacks.

For that matter, what is your official source to back up your statement that fighters are scrambled within 5-10 minutes of a hijacking (prior to 9/11)? Even if that were true, unless a civilian airliner has direct contact with the US military, there would obviously be a large delay from the time a hijacking is reported to the time the information is relayed to the appropriate air intercept squadron. Even if interceptors were trailing the two hijacked aircraft to NYC, there would have been no indication AT THAT TIME to shoot them down.

As you may or may not understand, the intercept protocols have changed since 9/11. Before the attacks, the protocols had been relaxed during the Clinton administration.

Gee, if your contentions are correct, then somehow the 'non-partisan' 9/11 commission must have totally and completely missed that one. As did the media.

AGAIN, I ask you, were those two F-16's on afterburner that I saw peeling overhead that morning at about 9:20am just a figment of my imagination? I will answer it for you. They were real. They were heading south, most likely to establish a CAP over one of the cities here in the Northeast. Make no mistake about it -- any additional hijacked aircraft would indeed have been shot down that day if absolutely required. That is a decision that I hope that no interceptor pilot ever needs to make.

217 posted on 04/20/2004 9:44:46 PM PDT by Skywarner (Enjoying freedom? Thank a Veteran!)
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To: Ramius
The convoluted way you explained that is why the liberal pukes can't get it right ... they never seem to grasp that someone who is not a liar by nature doesn't have to convolute, just speak the truth and rely on the clarity of such. Even liberal dolts realize their idiocy (though they never, ever admit it) when further truth surfaces, as it will with this issue also. Also, watch for more to trickle out on Salman Pak and another terrorist training camp North of Baghdad. As I recall, a Fox News imbed was the media person who enterewd that one also (Ollie North entered Salman Pak with the Marines).
218 posted on 04/20/2004 9:46:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Skywarner
Good night all. The discussion has been interesting, but now it's time to call it a night. Work calls in the morning...
219 posted on 04/20/2004 9:47:24 PM PDT by Skywarner (Enjoying freedom? Thank a Veteran!)
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To: Maximilian
Even TIME and Newsweek has published that stuff. Are you blind or just will not see?
220 posted on 04/20/2004 9:50:19 PM PDT by oyez (Fortune favors the bold.)
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