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To: Askel5
It would seem that you're citing a host of social ills as being responsible for a certain amount (I'll let others quibble over the amount) of evil in our nation.

How would forcing people to acknowledge "homosexual marriage" against their personal morals help the situation?

If anything, it would seem a giant leap down the path which we can clearly see was the wrong one to pick in the first place. If anything, it is becoming quite clear that we need to reverse course until we once again have our bearings before attempt to blindly pitch in the direction that we hope is "forward."
111 posted on 04/19/2004 1:39:29 PM PDT by FormerLib ("Homosexual marriage" is nothing more than another route to anarchy.)
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To: FormerLib
=== How would forcing people to acknowledge "homosexual marriage" against their personal morals help the situation?

I think it's you who are operating under the misconception here.

I've no interest in further mainstreaming homosexuality, I'm just pointing out that anyone accepting of birth control and artificial conception hasn't got a choice BUT to afford homosexuals the same "rights" as everyone else.

It's not homosexuals who have "ruined" marriage, heterosexuals have. You cannot embrace this Artificial Reality that is Population Control (each requiring prodigious and only increasing attentions and permissions from the state) and then assert that it's only for heterosexuals just because homosexuals beat you at your own game not only where the nonprocreative sexual satisfaction is concerned but also because they get their Choice of more perfect embryos or adoptees to purchase whereas heteros may end up getting a dud mongloid they'll be sorely tempted to abort out of mercy if they dare to procreate naturally as God intended.

Again ... I can't stress this enough .... absent a return to the utterly natural state of things -- with birth control and artificial conception rightfully recognized as the absolutely immoral and utterly destabling tools of state control that they ARE -- you have no grounds on which to assert that homosexuals have no right to a civil union from which children may or may not be produced.

It's not their problem homosexuals fit so well the current model of "marriage" as dumbed down by Useful Idiot heteros and their "rights" to artificial realities.
112 posted on 04/19/2004 2:47:02 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: FormerLib
=== If anything, it is becoming quite clear that we need to reverse course


Agreed entirely.

But I doubt you'll find many takers for giving up their birth control or foregoing their dreams of conceiving a more perfect child once they've decided -- career-wise, etc. etc. -- they're ready to accessorize their lives with progeny courtesy of the Clinic and some anonymous donors.

But absent such a movement, there never again will be grounds on which to distinguish between hetero and homo marriages since both have the "rights" to artificial reality.
113 posted on 04/19/2004 2:50:36 PM PDT by Askel5
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