[Askel5]

=== If anything, it is becoming quite clear that we need to reverse course


Agreed entirely.

But I doubt you'll find many takers for giving up their birth control or foregoing their dreams of conceiving a more perfect child once they've decided -- career-wise, etc. etc. -- they're ready to accessorize their lives with progeny courtesy of the Clinic and some anonymous donors.

But absent such a movement, there never again will be grounds on which to distinguish between hetero and homo marriages since both have the "rights" to artificial reality.

[William Wallace]

I missed your follow-up posts to formerlib and his last responses. You explained your position far better than I could and appear to have corrected whatever misunderstanding there was. Sorry for butting in.

BTW, welcome back! :-)