[aruanan]

Well .. you believe who you want to believe, and I'll believe the Bible. God said that Abraham gave birth to Ishmael and I believe it.

Show me anywhere where I said that Ishmael was not the half son of Abraham. Yes, the Bible says that Abraham gave birth to Ishamael. But it doesn't anywhere give any indication that Ishmael was the ancestor of the Arabs.

What you're actually saying in response to me is "Well.. you believe who you want to believe, and I'll believe the Muslims and the Koran. They say that they are descendents from Abraham through Ishmael and I believe it" because there's nothing in the Bible to support what you're saying.

[djmv]

Ping for future reference

[Jacob Kell]

I think in the Bible Abraham asked the Lord that Ismael might live before Him, and God basically said “no”.